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A quite cool song, deliberately corny lyrics aside, it's hangs together really well and the drum treatment works really well - though the slap kick isn't improved by it. Hi, Ray! Thanks! I'll admit to being lazy with the mixing on the drums. I have a listen to the drum and see if there's anything I can do to improve it. The voices - well you did a cool job tweaking them to get a great result. That mob should be paying you demo fees. Thanks, but I'm nowhere modern enough to be a good demo. I'll see if I can get closer to something contemporary in my next song.  I appreciate the feedback. 
-- David Cuny My virtual singer development blogVocal control, you say. Never heard of it. Is that some kind of ProTools thing?BiaB 2025 | Windows 11 | Reaper | Way too many VSTis.
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First, the song... Love it, David. Thanks!  I wish I could take credit for that, but it's all BiaB. I threw RBass on it to boost it, because it sounded so good. A very clever write, and the perfect vehicle to use the AI voices. You're right, I don't understand it, but it sounds good. Really well constructed production. It's good to hear that it all fit together. When assembling a song, it's sometimes hard to tell if it works or not. Thanks for the comments!
-- David Cuny My virtual singer development blogVocal control, you say. Never heard of it. Is that some kind of ProTools thing?BiaB 2025 | Windows 11 | Reaper | Way too many VSTis.
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well heck i wasnt expecting this. Next time, I'll put up a big warning sign. great job with the backing band too. Thanks! There are some really nice '70s RealTracks in BiaB, and I intend to use as many as I can. I MEAN IT SINCERELY MATE. this must have been a lot of work. also what i like bout it is, it has some lovely song "hooks" in the arrangement. I'm glad it worked! Sometimes the problem with BiaB is that there's so much good stuff, it's hard to know what parts to take out of the arrangement. I was (and still am) a bit worried that the arrangement is a bit overdone. ive only got two words BLOWN AWAY. That's nice of you to say, thanks again! 
-- David Cuny My virtual singer development blogVocal control, you say. Never heard of it. Is that some kind of ProTools thing?BiaB 2025 | Windows 11 | Reaper | Way too many VSTis.
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It's good to see you got the ladies together again, and a gentleman too this time. Yeah, I hadn't expected him to show up, especially since the initial tests with the AI "male" voice wasn't that promising. But I found out I just couldn't do without him.  I really with the SynthV people would hurry up and release a male English voice. It would make my life that much easier. Then again, my son has offered to sing lyrics for me, so maybe next time I'll take him up on his offer. The main problem with using "real" singers is that I get obsessive about editing, down to the syllable level. Plus, having synthetic vocalists means I can made lots of last-minute changes to the lyrics, which is quite handy! I did a lot of tweaks to the vocals even after posting to try and make some bits more intelligible. Your work is brilliant, not just because you know how to program the Synthesizer V so well, but because the lyrics and music fit the AI gang very naturally. The only thing you are missing with this production is a animated video of the girls (and guy) belting the song out. Hehehe. At one point, I wanted to be an animator. But I don't have the patience for it, or the drawing skills! Plus, there's a licensing fee involved if I use the Eleanor Forte image. But now you've got me thinking about it... Thanks!
-- David Cuny My virtual singer development blogVocal control, you say. Never heard of it. Is that some kind of ProTools thing?BiaB 2025 | Windows 11 | Reaper | Way too many VSTis.
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Wow, this is one of the most interesting things I've heard on the forum.
First up, the band sounds great and the production is top notch.
The voice technology is amazing. I can see this progressing very quickly, giving hope to us non-singers.
Your light-hearted and clever song worked a treat.
Thanks also for the detailed production info.
Cheers,
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Wow, this is one of the most interesting things I've heard on the forum. Hi, Mike. Wow - I'm flattered. But I think there are certainly some more creative things happening. Your "Time To Say Goodbye" and Mark's "Song My Mother Taught Me", for example. First up, the band sounds great and the production is top notch. That's the most important bit, so thanks for that. The voice technology is amazing. I can see this progressing very quickly, giving hope to us non-singers. Yeah, as I was listening to your "Time To Say Goodbye", I was thinking the same thing. If you've got a MIDI track of your song, you can send it to me, and I'll see if I can get a vocal track for your song put together. Text me and I'll give you my email address... if you're interested. Your light-hearted and clever song worked a treat. Super - thanks!
-- David Cuny My virtual singer development blogVocal control, you say. Never heard of it. Is that some kind of ProTools thing?BiaB 2025 | Windows 11 | Reaper | Way too many VSTis.
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I really, really enjoy pretty much anything that has themes linked to fairy tales and fables! No matter how the times change, some stories simply continue to persist, and I love seeing how people continue to immortalize these things. Thanks so much for sharing!
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I really, really enjoy pretty much anything that has themes linked to fairy tales and fables! Thanks, Ember. Good to hear you found something to like in it!
-- David Cuny My virtual singer development blogVocal control, you say. Never heard of it. Is that some kind of ProTools thing?BiaB 2025 | Windows 11 | Reaper | Way too many VSTis.
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Hi David,
Amazing - I didn't know this vocal technology existed.
You have clearly done a great deal of work on this song - well done.
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Wow, voice technology has certainly come a long way. I get what Mark was saying about the tone of the female vocal. My first thought was it sounded like a a Barry Gibb falsetto which is never a bad thing. That aside the band sounds great and the lyrics are clever without being silly. Clearly a lot of work went into this and resulted in a great listen, Tom
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David,
Love that opening. Grabs the ear nicely.
A clever write.
"Every night
I chase the same siren call
Looking forever for that damned ball"
That's strong.
BAND is nice. Good mix.
For my money, the shining star is the melody. Excellent.
The duet aspect is a nice touch, too...
The sound of this is stuck in my head long after listening...
fj
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Amazing - I didn't know this vocal technology existed. Hi, Nigel. While it's not quite good enough to be convincing, I think it's at the point where it's useful enough to be able to demo a song without being too much of a distraction. It's especially useful for doing things like complex harmonies, or reworking lyrics - a good singer will be able to make anything work, but if the lyric is a clunker, you'll know right away when the computer sings it. And importantly for me, it takes me as a singer out of the equation when writing, which is helpful. You have clearly done a great deal of work on this song - well done. Thanks, I appreciate that.
-- David Cuny My virtual singer development blogVocal control, you say. Never heard of it. Is that some kind of ProTools thing?BiaB 2025 | Windows 11 | Reaper | Way too many VSTis.
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I get what Mark was saying about the tone of the female vocal. My first thought was it sounded like a a Barry Gibb falsetto which is never a bad thing. Hi, Tom. It apparently is a falsetto register for the voicebank. Yes, that's a thing with women singers, and SynthV recently added support for it. I'll confess, since the working title of the track was "Discoland", the Bee Gees weren't far from my thoughts - even though the harmony is nothing close to their style. A lot of Vocaloid songs are in the upper register, so I thought I'd leave it there. In the future, I'll probably pick a more sensible register, since changing keys in BiaB is pretty trivial. That aside the band sounds great and the lyrics are clever without being silly. Clearly a lot of work went into this and resulted in a great listen It's good to hear the song worked! Honestly, I think the BiaB style did most of the heavy lifting here, but I'll be happy to take some credit. Thanks for stopping by to listen and comment!
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Love that opening. Grabs the ear nicely. Hi, floyd jane. Glad to hear it! A clever write.
"Every night
I chase the same siren call
Looking forever for that damned ball"
That's strong. Great to hear, especially from you. It's good to hear it works. I think I mentioned elsewhere that I tend to overdo my arrangements. This part of the songwriting business is especially a work in progress for me. For my money, the shining star is the melody. Excellent. I really appreciate that. I'd been working on a song off and on for a couple months, and started it again. The melody was pretty, but not compelling. So I finally dumped it and started this one from scratch, and tried to come up with something more melodically interesting. The duet aspect is a nice touch, too... That's one of the nice things about having multiple singers - different registers really show off counterpoint nicely, even if (as in this case) it's pretty minimal. I got a bit silly with the stereo panning in the second verse, but no one's complained yet. Maybe they're just being polite. The sound of this is stuck in my head long after listening... Well, that's the gold standard for me for melody. That, and a positive floyd jane review!
-- David Cuny My virtual singer development blogVocal control, you say. Never heard of it. Is that some kind of ProTools thing?BiaB 2025 | Windows 11 | Reaper | Way too many VSTis.
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Cool song David!!! I really like the concept, and you executed it very well!! Love to hear some real singers on this! Nice work!! Take care. Greg
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Cool song David!!! I really like the concept, and you executed it very well!! Love to hear some real singers on this! Nice work!! Thanks, Greg! My intent was to have a go at some of these songs with actual singers next year. I'll see how that works out.
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David,
It is a wonderful duet song that reminds me of one song of the some musicals.
I think it was difficult to use male and female voices properly with the same character of Synth V.
Also, I think it's difficult to compose a duet song, but you've succeeded in doing so.
Enjoyed my listen a lot.
Best regards.
Shigeki Adachi
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This sounds really cool man!!
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I'm always curious enough to give a listen when I see these vocal products. I'm usually met with what I'm expecting; and that's a pretty low bar. Not that I dislike it; it's just not...you know, all that good. I enjoy hearing the progress; even if it is slow.
Then you came along, as someone I know from the forums...not some unrealistic demo the company put out...and blew me away. Obviously it's not a perfected science yet; but what you did was damn impressive!
Thanks for the surprise today! Now the bar has been raised. It makes me more curious even for the near future.
You really did a great job my friend!
Chad (Hope that makes it easier)
TEMPO TANTRUM: What a lead singer has when they can't stay in time.
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That was great! What a nifty production.
Loved the tune and harmony and instrumentation. Good work with the AI.
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