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So I have everything, as I do each year but it 's that time again.

I'd really appreciate if someone, (Guru), would be kind enough to tell what is the right choice for upgrading so as not to lose out on anything. It always seems so confusing and living here in UK it appears there is duty to pay on top though I can't really get my head around that as surely a digital download shouldn't be party to additional costs. What should I be upgrading too friends? Oh, and is there additional pluspaks too?

Many thanks and let the fun begin.

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Hi Mal,

Looks like you need the 2022 Plus Pak Upgrade at $99, the 49 Bonus pak at $49, all Extra styles pak 12 at $29, and the, the Xpro styles pak 2 at $29.

There is also the more expensive Audiophile edition of biab as well.

The above should give you everything, of course all the above bonus paks are optional to buy or not.

Any questions I'm sure sales at PGMusic will help.


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Hi Mal,

Go here...

https://www.pgmusic.com/bbwin.packages.htm

Scroll down and enter your BIAB's serial number (see image below). Purchase information should then appear.

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Working on it. Thanks Guys.

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Hi Mal, you can always contact us directly via live chat or email sales@pgmusic.com. We can look into your order history and give you recommendations based on that. Happy holidays!


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Hi Mal,

Go here...

https://www.pgmusic.com/bbwin.packages.htm

Scroll down and enter your BIAB's serial number (see image below). Purchase information should then appear.

Regards,
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Though at present that isn't offering 2022 as an upgrade.
Work in progress, I imagine.


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This is one of the reasons I find PGM's product information so confusing.

It would appear that, as an UltraPak 2021 user I could upgrade at $99 with a plusPak or $149 with an UltraPak, but it appears that both offer the 2022 programs and the 222 additional RealTracks and the BonusPak. So why would I upgrade at $149 when I can apparently get the same thing for $99.?

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Originally Posted By: Gordon Scott
This is one of the reasons I find PGM's product information so confusing.

It would appear that, as an UltraPak 2021 user I could upgrade at $99 with a plusPak or $149 with an UltraPak, but it appears that both offer the 2022 programs and the 222 additional RealTracks and the BonusPak. So why would I upgrade at $149 when I can apparently get the same thing for $99.?

I think one includes a thumb drive with only the new stuff while the other is complete with all BIAB stuff.

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I am in a similar position.
From 2021 UltraPak I am being advised to upgrade to 2022 UltraPak+ at 179 dollars.
This means I will be repurchasing the 3100+ RTs/RDs and 2800+ MIDI styles that I already own.
The additional MIDI tracks, Artist performances etc, I can live without. I have versions of these from previous years and probably looked at them 3 or 4 times since then.
The 99 dollar PlusPak which includes all the new RTs seems to be the way to go for me, this plus the 49 Pak seems better value and has more content that I will use.
Or am I missing something?

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All installed and up to date except Xtra Styles PAK 12. Apparently there is a problem with this download and it's being sorted so I don't need an extra Prozac.

Now for hours of ignoring my beautiful wife.

WooooooHooooo

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gibson.
i'm in a similar boat as you.
but want to upgrade from 2020 ultrapak +.
was thinking the 99 buk plus 49 buk...option.
on a usb pen drive ? is that doable pg ?
please advise.
OR if i pay 169 buks upgrade do i get a new usb hard drive ?

finally can anyone tell me if...
1. new 2022 vst plug has pans and vols ?
2. in the 2022 acw screen in realband and biab has an option to slow down playback like there is in rb traks view ?
reason i ask is ...i'm useing rb and bb to "tart up"
some songs that started on tape , and masters ive converted to digital wav. i'm deep into the acw.

thanks
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Originally Posted By: justanoldmuso
finally can anyone tell me if...
1. new 2022 vst plug has pans and vols ?



That would be a no.


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This is one of the reasons I find PGM's product information so confusing.

It would appear that, as an UltraPak 2021 user I could upgrade at $99 with a plusPak or $149 with an UltraPak, but it appears that both offer the 2022 programs and the 222 additional RealTracks and the BonusPak. So why would I upgrade at $149 when I can apparently get the same thing for $99.?

I think one includes a thumb drive with only the new stuff while the other is complete with all BIAB stuff.

That would make some sense, though they also both list as download and the $149 is the download price.

I just noticed the bonus 49Pak is also an option ... on both, at the same $49.

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Originally Posted By: VintageGibson
I am in a similar position.
From 2021 UltraPak I am being advised to upgrade to 2022 UltraPak+ at 179 dollars.
This means I will be repurchasing the 3100+ RTs/RDs and 2800+ MIDI styles that I already own.
The additional MIDI tracks, Artist performances etc, I can live without. I have versions of these from previous years and probably looked at them 3 or 4 times since then.
The 99 dollar PlusPak which includes all the new RTs seems to be the way to go for me, this plus the 49 Pak seems better value and has more content that I will use.
Or am I missing something?

Vintage



Seems like a good choice, only thing you're missing is the Xpro 2 pak and the Xtra style pak 12 which would give you an extra 300 ready made styles.

Good to see another biab fan in this region.

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Originally Posted By: musiclover

Seems like a good choice, only thing you're missing is the Xpro 2 pak and the Xtra style pak 12 which would give you an extra 300 ready made styles.



Not sure if you guys saw: Xtra style pak 12 is being worked on. The download produces a not so desired result smile


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Xtra style pak 12 has been fixed. smile


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All downloads seem to work ok now.

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Seems like a good choice, only thing you're missing is the Xpro 2 pak and the Xtra style pak 12 which would give you an extra 300 ready made styles.

Good to see another biab fan in this region.

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re. Style Paks, I tend to use a style as a starting point then roll my own, so only buy occasionally.

Been using BIAB since the end of the previous millennium, lurked around here for years then joined up when I realised I could get better and faster advice here.

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We fellow users get some right, but are we better or faster? I notice more participation here by PG Music staff now, which is great.


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Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
We fellow users get some right, but are we better or faster? I notice more participation here by PG Music staff now, which is great.


Perhaps I should clarify my previous remark;
For day to day, How do I..?, Why does this happen? type of questions, the forum is my first call, the few "in depth" problems I occasionally have are sent to and sorted out by PGM. The forum is a great info source because of the generous and knowledgeable responses to other users' questions.

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