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@MikeK
The Xtra PAK 12 issue now seems to be resolved as it is now correctly in my account and also available in Download Manager.
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Wish I had known about the VAT recovery voucher. Is there any way to apply for this after buying?
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@MikeK
The Xtra PAK 12 issue now seems to be resolved as it is now correctly in my account and also available in Download Manager.
Thanks a bunch, my friend!
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Any word on fixes to existing bugs?
We were looking for a new release based on cleaning up the existing product at the expense of "New" tracks, styles, features. But we seem to be back to the same problems we have been living with for years. There are certainly a few bug fixes incorporated in the new release. Copying notes to a Tag ending no longer unexpectedly changes the Chorus length is one that comes to mind.
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The 2022 update is quite different then upgrades from the past.Sure, it has hundreds of new real tracks and styles which are always welcome but most importantly it has many new paradigm-changing features allowing you to truly fine-tune your song progression style and even integrate melodies into what used to be just solid rhythm tracks. Even existing chord progressions can be given new rhythms and syncopations by using the new motif capability to force certain rhythm patterns with your existing chords. Micro Chords: Finally, you can create syncopated chord changes. Passing 1/8th and 1/16th chord progressions are now a piece of cake. Getting the chord progression to play syncopations or create stronger rhythms unique to your song are now possible. This feature alone is a game-changer. Drum Stems for those of you who use BIAB with a DAW or just want to have more control over your drum mix in BIAB, now you can do things like add reverb to just the snare or bring up the hi-hats etc. I was surprised how much this new feature help with the final song sound. Playable Real Tracks: have you ever wanted your real tracks to follow the melody closer or have the bass player do a specific rundown that you hear in your head? Well now, this is all possible with the ingenious new way of integrating MIDI playback of Real tracks (separate RT notes) with the actual real track performance. Playable RTs Multi Riff Comping another killer solution in 2022. You can now do what in the past required using a comping process in your DAW to choose the best phrases out of a riff to build a killer solo. This now can be done directly in BIAB allowing you to choose bar by bar the best build-up of your solo. This alone is worth the price of admission. Multi Riff Comping "All tracks are the Same" not to overlook the most basic change in 2022 where now you can treat band in the box like a pure 24 track song building tool. Each track can have your choice of instrument and introduce a more unified workflow for developing your song. An entire song production with up to twenty-four tracks, each having up to ten parallel RTs, 5-15 drum stems as many vocalist/harmonies as you need, can now be directly created in BIAB! This is a no-brainer buy. 6 minute overview .
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It’s especially helpful to watch the videos to understand the new features (which are amazing and answer some long-standing requests). for any newbies who might not know their way around the PGMusic web site, here's the link: https://www.pgmusic.com/videos.bbwin.htm Good idea, Pat. Thanks!
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I think I have a solution to the price concerns expressed in this thread. The concern as I've read here, is for existing customers, who tend to update each year at the time of the upgrade special (in December). The concern is that customers in some countries (Europe/UK) would face an approximate 20% increase for the update and other special items due to paying VAT, which for some might be a deal breaker on getting the update.
The solution is that we would, at the time of notifying of the update (Dec 2021), send a 20% off coupon to existing customers in those countries, that would be in addition to the other discounts in the special. It would also apply to other specials during the year like a new styles set. That 20%-off coupon would offset the extra cost and apply to all items purchased during the special.
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I just added BIAB 2022 Ultrapak upgrade to my basket, on checkout it is adding 20% VAT (that's an extra $30). Have any UK customers received a 20% discount coupon as Peter Gannon indicated in the above quote. Thanks
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I think I have a solution to the price concerns expressed in this thread. The concern as I've read here, is for existing customers, who tend to update each year at the time of the upgrade special (in December). The concern is that customers in some countries (Europe/UK) would face an approximate 20% increase for the update and other special items due to paying VAT, which for some might be a deal breaker on getting the update.
The solution is that we would, at the time of notifying of the update (Dec 2021), send a 20% off coupon to existing customers in those countries, that would be in addition to the other discounts in the special. It would also apply to other specials during the year like a new styles set. That 20%-off coupon would offset the extra cost and apply to all items purchased during the special.
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I just added BIAB 2022 Ultrapak upgrade to my basket, on checkout it is adding 20% VAT (that's an extra $30). Have any UK customers received a 20% discount coupon as Peter Gannon indicated in the above quote. Thanks Not I, for sure.!  I upgrade Ultra every year with all the add-on playthings but now its almost over $350 and geting a bit too rich for me. The UK Gov screwed it for me by making it plus 20% VAT on digital DLs. I'd be very happy to buy 2022 in all its glory now if PG and Peter would issue me with a Discount Code. Any ideas when that might be? Bests ian
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As always with software there will be bugs! Don't worry there will also be digital RAID! this years release if in my feeble opinion game changing and very work flow oriented.
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This is an exciting update. The prior implementation of multiple tracks initially looked great, but (for me) turned out to be far less useful that I had hoped. And there are a lot of additions here that have been frequently asked for, which I could see using on a regular basis. So this the first update in a while where the feature update is more exciting than the RealTracks. I may actually read the manual this time! 
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This is an exciting update. ... I may actually read the manual this time! The 2022 User Manual has about 200 less pages than the prior user manual. 2022 has about 450 pages. You can download both the 2022 Upgrade and User Manuals +++ HERE +++
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The UK Gov screwed it for me by making it plus 20% VAT on digital DLs.
Doubly annoying because VAT is an EU tax regime. :-(
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I noticed another thread about your VAT. Perhaps there will be some mitigation.
About the manual, I can also recommend the videos. Those helped me understand the new features.
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I think I have a solution to the price concerns expressed in this thread. The concern as I've read here, is for existing customers, who tend to update each year at the time of the upgrade special (in December). The concern is that customers in some countries (Europe/UK) would face an approximate 20% increase for the update and other special items due to paying VAT, which for some might be a deal breaker on getting the update.
The solution is that we would, at the time of notifying of the update (Dec 2021), send a 20% off coupon to existing customers in those countries, that would be in addition to the other discounts in the special. It would also apply to other specials during the year like a new styles set. That 20%-off coupon would offset the extra cost and apply to all items purchased during the special.
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I just added BIAB 2022 Ultrapak upgrade to my basket, on checkout it is adding 20% VAT (that's an extra $30). Have any UK customers received a 20% discount coupon as Peter Gannon indicated in the above quote. Thanks Wish I had known about that before upgrading. I moved to France from the U.S. 3 months ago and got charged the 20% VAT on top of the upgrade price for the UltraPak and the 49Pak. Oh, well.
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I think I have a solution to the price concerns expressed in this thread. The concern as I've read here, is for existing customers, who tend to update each year at the time of the upgrade special (in December). The concern is that customers in some countries (Europe/UK) would face an approximate 20% increase for the update and other special items due to paying VAT, which for some might be a deal breaker on getting the update.
The solution is that we would, at the time of notifying of the update (Dec 2021), send a 20% off coupon to existing customers in those countries, that would be in addition to the other discounts in the special. It would also apply to other specials during the year like a new styles set. That 20%-off coupon would offset the extra cost and apply to all items purchased during the special.
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Peter Gannon
PG Music Inc.
I just added BIAB 2022 Ultrapak upgrade to my basket, on checkout it is adding 20% VAT (that's an extra $30). Have any UK customers received a 20% discount coupon as Peter Gannon indicated in the above quote. Thanks Have just gone through the buying process without actually buying, and 20% is added with no indication of any discount. Has P. Gannon's proposal been abandoned? Vintage
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I live in Austria and own BB Ultra PAK (bought 2021). Today I recieved a Mail from PG with infos to BB 2022 and the Promotional Code that gives me additional 20% off (until 31.12.2021). That relieved my decision to upgrade. The upgrade - process with the new Download- and Install - Manager ist very easy - I'm now looking foward to the new functions of BB.
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Good to know, will look out for email. Good luck with BIAB2022, it looks very interesting this year. Vintage edit: As I was typing above, the Email was winging its way to my inbox, I am now a very happy chappie  Vintage
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User TheMartiann should contact PG Music.
Now if I understand this, just one day after doing all the work to release the upgrade, PG Music identified all its customers in the UK and the European Union and sent them an email. The offer is a 20% discount which is coming right out of their profits, in order to make the final price reasonable to people who live there.
If that’s right, I hope I see some more recognition of the generosity being shown here. Do you know any other company that would do this?
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I saw the release of the Software yesterday and I was waiting for the coupon to proceed with the update. And as PG promised, I received an email with this coupon.
And yes, I greatly appreciate the fact that they have kept their word, and I am well aware that this 20% helps us with the VAT, but that PG takes it directly out of its profits and I don't know of ANY company that would do that. This is why I am so grateful to them, for that but also for their inventiveness. What a great program!
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And yes, I greatly appreciate the fact that they have kept their word, and I am well aware that this 20% helps us with the VAT, but that PG takes it directly out of its profits and I don't know of ANY company that would do that.
Yes! Oui! I do know a few companies that have done it, but it's pretty rare.
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I should say, I don't KNOW that it comes from PG Music's profits, but how else could it work?
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Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
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Band-in-a-Box 2025 Italian Version is Here!
Cari amici
È stata aggerate la versione in Italiano del programma più amato dagli appassionati di musica, il nostro Band-in-a-Box.
Questo è il link alla nuova versione 2025.
Di seguito i link per scaricare il pacchetti di lingua italiana aggiornati per Band-in-a-Box e RealBand, anche per chi avesse già comprato la nuova versione in inglese.
Band-in-a-Box 2025 - Italiano
RealBand 2025 - Italiano
Band-in-a-Box 2025 French Version is Here!
Bonjour à tous,
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 pour Windows est disponible en Français.
Le téléchargement se fait à partir du site PG Music
Pour ceux qui auraient déjà acheté la version 2025 de Band-in-a-Box (et qui donc ont une version anglaise), il est possible de "franciser" cette version avec les patchs suivants:
BIAB 2025 - francisation
RealBand 2025 - francisation
Voilà, enjoy!
Band-in-a-Box 2025 German Version is Here!
Update Your Band-in-a-Box® 2025 to Build 1128 for Windows Today!
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PowerTracks Pro Audio 2025 for Windows is Here!
PowerTracks Pro Audio 2025 is here! This new version introduces many features, including VST3 support, the ability to load or import a .FLAC file, a reset option for track height in the Tracks window, a taller Timeline on the Notation window toolbar, new freeze buttons in the Tracks window, three toolbar modes (two rows, single row, and none), the improved Select Patch dialog with text-based search and numeric patch display, a new button in the DirectX/VST window to copy an effects group, and more!
First-time packages start at only $49. Already a PowerTracks Pro Audio user? Upgrade for as little as $29!
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Video: Summary of the New Band-in-a-Box® App for iOS®
Join Tobin as he takes you on a tour of the new Band-in-a-Box® app for iOS®! Designed for musicians, singer-songwriters, and educators, this powerful tool lets you create, play, and transfer songs effortlessly on your iPhone® or iPad®—anytime, anywhere.
Band-in-a-Box® for iOS® :Summary video.
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