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Mel Bay? Over here we had Bert Weedon whose most famous book was 'Play in a day'. When playing folk clubs I used to leave a copy on my guitar case before going on. Lots of worried looks from the guy who was paying the band.

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Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
Guitar.

First of all, you have to decide which is the middle C you can agree upon. Then decide which register, since guitar is a transposing instrument. But who’s counting?

ps I’m speaking as a composer and arranger; my guitar playing is limited to one year of the Mel Bay book in fourth grade.


Matt, when we say middle C we mean the concert middle C, the one on a piano between the staffs. It is the MIDI nomenclature that has a few names for middle C, like C3, C4, or C5. Same note number, 60, but different names.
Oh, I know. I was just having fun. That MIDI 'standard' by different vendors is unfortunate, though.


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I don't have a problem with anyone's interpretation of a song using simple or complex chords.

I do have ears that let me know when a chord sounds so off it's obviously wrong.

I've come across that quite often online.

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Well, here is some stuff that is easy to miss. Look at the finger position on fret 5 for the A sus 4. What I do and what many guitar players do is move my little finger over to the G string 7th fret and mute the D string. I do this because forming the A sus 4 the way it is showed in the diagram is hard for me to do. Also It sounds fine to me.


Here is a little recording to explain some of my thinking. If I was not so lazy I would have made a video to demonstrate all this.

https://soundcloud.com/planobillydfw/a-sus-4-and-2?si=9e5f2c1e09d747a4aad22c05fe79fd29

Correction, I said sustained when I meant suspended 2.

This is a youtube link to the Etta James song I was referring to. "I'd Rather Go Blind" https://youtu.be/uZt1xKtPbUQ

I did not play this exactly like the recording because I don't want to have the copyright infringement conversation.

Billy

EDIT: I got to see Etta perform at the Fender Center in Corona California shortly before she died. Bo Diddly invited me backstage and I got to spend a bit of time with both of them. This recording I posted of her at Montreux was played by some of the best musicians in the world. I am glad we have these recordings to remember these unforgitable voices.

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That MIDI 'standard' by different vendors is unfortunate, though.

I agree. One vendor's "0" is another vendor's "1". Can't we get on the same page? smile




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You listen, you watch, you get bloody fingers from trying to figure out the correct guitar chords. Then you find out the original guitar part: (1) used an alternate tuning, (2) playback was sped up or slowed down, (3) the guitar was not in tune.


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Those alternate tunings can really make you pull out your hair trying to figure out how they played that riff or chord.


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Billy I have told you before.

You need to stop your whining and crying and belly aching and excuse making and get your self a copy of Guitar pro and study the damn licks like a man son. Like Chet and Jerry. Don't quit like a baby. Stay up all night until your fingers bleed.

It don't matter what they call them chords. Chet never cared. Jerry never learned the names. It only matters how they sound. Ain't you figured out country yet.

C'mon man!!

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Didn't you used to ride an Amtrack with Wille Nelsom and young Joe Biden???

C'mon man! Stop whining and start picking.

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I have no idea what the rest of the world is doing at 11:33 PM on a Friday night David. I am sitting here playing guitar and learning new stuff every day.

I can say the intro in Guitar Pro 6 that you posted is correct because I just sight-read it. Tabbed by biperdooodle...that certainly inspires confidence in its accuracy...lol

As far as not knowing the names of chords, am I to believe you don't know their names?...lol In the case of A sus 4, I never really needed to know the name because I could hear the interval so I get all that playing by ear stuff. So how would one go about using Guitar Pro 6 if they did not know anything? Besides what is all that ppp pp p stuff on the left? That some kind of Pro Tools thing?

Actually, I am learning the song by listening to Chris play it. The internet video does make that easier.

I have an acquaintance who had been flying small airplanes all over the country for years. Never got a license and never took any formal instruction. He finally killed himself in the LA fog. Being uneducated is not a condition I want to be in about anything I can do something about.

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Abbott Texas and I was born in Houston Texas. We both had horses so there was no need for Amtrack...lol

I have to assume a "young Joe" never made it south of the Mason Dixon line...lol

My birthday is coming up in a couple of months. You could buy me a copy. That would be right kindly of you. I would even drive up to your house to pick it up.

David, I just survived and was cured of throat cancer in one operation and I can assure you I have nothing to complain about.

Best wishes and happy holidays.

Billy


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