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please please please ..... minor add9 without any other extensions: a simple minor triad with a 9th added. Standard pop and rock chords.
while I am at it, I'll write here some other notes that I took over the years and put them in my BB manual. As much as I love the program, I'd really like to see these little things sorted:
if you enter E5/ A , bb plays a G sharp. Why ? an E5 should just be a perfect fifth , adding the third defeats the whole thing
if you enter B dim /D , bb plays a B dim7 , a completely different chord. The B dim/ D is simply a diminished triad taken in first inversion, that's the way it's used in classical music because these guys say that if you play the B dim with the B in the bass, the chord will sound harsher than if you play the same triad with the D in the bass.
even if you tick off the 'allow embellishment of chord' option, BB often plays F sharp on a C maj7, or it will play the ninth anyways on an Abmaj7
all this stuff works well in jazz, but not so well in other genres
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here's another example : playing with a 60's blues style, in the key of C, after a standard progressions C,Am,F,G , i want to modulate to the key of Em, using an Am6 as a pivot chord....and BB introduces either a note G or an F sharp, even if I untick the 'allow chord embellishment' option. This is not an Am6 chord...not in the dozen of harmony books I have
it's starting to get frustrating...it doesn't help creativity at all, there should be an option to play the darn chords just as written, no more no less.
I am really impressed by the Realtracks but this chord business is too far out.....BB looks at harmony only from a jazz point of view, but jazz harmony is not always wanted or necessary, sorry
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F# is the 6th of an Am6 chord. Later, Ray
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F# is the 6th of an Am6 chord. Later, Ray
yes you are right , sorry I wrote confusely as I was describing it all without the instrument. I don't remember what I was trying to write about the Fsharp.
Either way the G should not be there....
I have tried another progression that modulated from the key of C major to the key of E minor:
C,Am6, Em/B, Bb, Em
BB plays a D sharp on the Em/ B chord, no less. It really, REALLY likes to put lots of extra notes 
Last edited by avatars_the_titletrack; 04/04/10 07:51 AM.
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does it depends on the styles, as well ? for example, if I want just minor and major triads without any extensions whatsoever UNLESS i enter seventh chords, etc, would I be better off with a Folk style rather than a Funk style in order for me not to have these chord problems?
thanks
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I find myself having to use the style editor option to set embellishments to 0 for the instrument concerned.
The other method is to use the style editor's velocity command, targeting a specific midi note in all the comping patterms. You could use this to edit out tall he b7ths (i.e the Bb in all the patterns.. midi notes 58, 70 etc) by assigning a velocity adjust of -90 in each case.
Then if you enter m9 you'll get m add9 , and the dim chord will also drop the 7th from the voicing.
(N.B this method won't work for patterns eneterd on a single macro note. You'll have to either mute these patterns or reimport them as full C7 voicings from a generated midi file.)
You just have to save the style as something else to ensure you dont permanently overwrite the voicings of the original.
HTH
Alan
Last edited by alan S.; 04/04/10 09:48 PM.
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thanks Alan, I might try it if nothing works, although it seems a pretty long-winded method. When it comes to computer stuff, I am lazy  luckily, I have found some styles that don't seem to throw these 'embellishments', so I think I'll start making a little list and using them consistently. As far as the m add9 , I tried to just write the B in the chords, it works reasonably well, but still it's a ridicolous amount of work just to get a m add9 chord I have no reason to believe that PG music won't address this little problem....it's nothing that they can't do ,as all the other new terrific BB features demonstrate
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