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Jim Fogle thanks. re point 2 the plus pak. according to the details plus pak is for 2021 ultrapak users. i'm on 2020 ultrapak. will it still work ? it seems silly to buy the 2022 ultrapak and rebuy a ton of stuff i already have in 2020.
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It can be painful and costly to miss the annual updates and then try to catch up. Been there and done that.
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The 2022 PlusPAK works because it gives you the package content introduced in 2022.
However, you will not have content introduced in 2021 as well as the bonus content from 2021 and 2022.
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I liked this excellent, informative tutorial, and really appreciate that there was very little distracting, superflorus background music, as there is in many other BIAB videos... great work PGM.
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I liked this excellent, informative tutorial, and really appreciate that there was very little distracting, superflorus background music, as there is in many other BIAB videos... great work PGM. Absolutely well put together and explained. This should especially allow users to become familiar with the new features with minimal effort. Outstanding.
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After watching the video, I have to say this is the most excited I've been about a BiaB release in years, maybe ever. Ordinarily, I focus on the Real Tracks and judge the new release based heavily on my impressions of them. This has been particularly true in the years that the new features seem to be incremental improvements or tweaks to things I never use. This release blows me away and offers some features many of us have wanted for years. PG seems to have really knocked this one out of the park!
For me, Micro Chords are a game changer. My pet peeve with BiaB has always been that I was chained at the ankle to quarter note changes. No more. This also effectively eliminates the need for the push in entering chords. You can now change the chord wherever you want it to change, rather than being tied to what the program generates. Ditto with the motif feature. These two used in combination expands a world of creative possibilities and takes an already powerful program to the next level.
I never even considered volume automation within the program itself. Mainly because, BiaB was so far behind in some basic features over the years, that it seemed the least of my worries. I always created my own using my DAW's automation lanes anyway, but this is an excellent addition and gives the user a high level of control. Hopefully, new releases will see other parameters become editable as well.
Playable RealTracks is a welcome addition too. So often, I generate a section for a solo or something and it's "almost" right. I've sometimes used my DAW's editing tools to change a note here or there, and even Melodyne. But to go into the piano roll and replace the notes generated from BiaB? That's very useful and should yield a more organic sound, that theoretically wouldn't produce artifacts.
I'm looking forward to the Drum Stems discussion in part 2.
So one question I have is about backwards compatibility. Do these features work on older Real Tracks sets as well, or only for those included with 2022 and beyond? Can any track become a Playable Real Track for example? Even those from old sets? Will Micro Chords entry work on all sets? Can I automate volume on RT's from say 2012 or 2015? Or, as I said, it only available for certain sets? Ditto for the stems feature. Will it be available for all past drums sets, or just new ones?
I haven't downloaded it yet. I probably will tomorrow, but I'll close with an additional question I didn't see covered in the video. Does Micro Chords entry support all the basic chord entry options, such as shots and holds, etc? I noticed you can separate the notes with commas, as in regular chord entry but it would be awesome if you could accent a note with a shot or whatever.
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> So one question I have is about backwards compatibility.
>Do these features work on older Real Tracks sets as well, or only for those included with 2022 and beyond?
Yes, The micro chords, multi riff, motifs, work on all RealTracks, including the old ones.
>Can any track become a Playable Real Track for example? Even those from old sets?
We are in the process of adding more of them, with the goal of having all of them be playable rt. We have all the material, it’s just a question of time as we add them. There are 400 now, and many of those work on multiple RealTracks since the same instrument was used.
>Will Micro Chords entry work on all sets? Yes, as above.
Can I automate volume on RT's from say 2012 or 2015? Yes.
>Or, as I said, it only available for certain sets?
>Ditto for the stems feature. Will it be available for all past drums sets, or just new ones? _ we have the source material for the RealDrums, and it takes time to make the stems. But yes, we plan on making all the RealDrums available as stems. Right now we have 40 of them as stems.
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Thanks for that clarification, Peter. That will help us to assist what are expected to be popular questions from many users.
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Question: is it possible to add your own notes in RealTrack using a MIDI keyboard or it can only be done using mouse in step sequencer fashion?
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Question:
How many official styles are there now? I mean those displayed on the stylepicker page
Last edited by swingbabymix; 12/07/21 04:54 AM.
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Finally watched it completely, even parts that of less interest. Tobin, well done!
What Tobin mentioned about micro chord showing up at 42:09 "would like to see those myself..." +1
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> So one question I have is about backwards compatibility.
>Do these features work on older Real Tracks sets as well, or only for those included with 2022 and beyond?
Yes, The micro chords, multi riff, motifs, work on all RealTracks, including the old ones.
>Can any track become a Playable Real Track for example? Even those from old sets?
We are in the process of adding more of them, with the goal of having all of them be playable rt. We have all the material, it’s just a question of time as we add them. There are 400 now, and many of those work on multiple RealTracks since the same instrument was used.
>Will Micro Chords entry work on all sets? Yes, as above.
Can I automate volume on RT's from say 2012 or 2015? Yes.
>Or, as I said, it only available for certain sets?
>Ditto for the stems feature. Will it be available for all past drums sets, or just new ones? _ we have the source material for the RealDrums, and it takes time to make the stems. But yes, we plan on making all the RealDrums available as stems. Right now we have 40 of them as stems. Thank you for the prompt reply. It is very much appreciated. It's awesome that these features are either already backward compatible or that there are plans to make all the previous sets work with the new features. I downloaded my copy today. I also have to give a big thumbs up to the new download manager as well. Not the sexiest feature unless you've done it all manually in past years. Overall, the best release to come along since the introduction of RealTracks themselves.
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Best Video I have seen so far I think. More informative and relatively digestable.
Thank You
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Great video!
Actually, the new track settings window is, with multiriffs, my favourite new feature from 2022. It allows you to concentrate on making music, rather than searching through menus and menus. Giant steps in the right direction!
Last edited by Cerio; 12/09/21 04:48 AM.
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Great job on the drum stems!
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Watching the pt2 video, I've realised that, because some styles will use the utility tracks, loading a new style could/would set a utility track up with a new instrument/musician, presumably ousting whatever was there before, which could be a track of my own. (Sorry, I'm on a Linux at the moment without my Wine install so I have no place to try this).
The obvious question is, Is there a way to stop that happening or warn about it, and/or is there a best practices way to avoid it (using the higher number tracks for my own stuff is an obvious candidate)?
Heh ... there's a Dilbert I love: If "Best Practices" is what everyone is doing, then it's the same as mediocre.
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Gordon. Freezing a track prevents the styles from using it.
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Band-in-a-Box 2025 French Version is Here!
Bonjour à tous,
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 pour Windows est disponible en Français.
Le téléchargement se fait à partir du site PG Music
Pour ceux qui auraient déjà acheté la version 2025 de Band-in-a-Box (et qui donc ont une version anglaise), il est possible de "franciser" cette version avec les patchs suivants:
BIAB 2025 - francisation
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Voilà, enjoy!
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Join Tobin as he takes you on a tour of the new Band-in-a-Box® app for iOS®! Designed for musicians, singer-songwriters, and educators, this powerful tool lets you create, play, and transfer songs effortlessly on your iPhone® or iPad®—anytime, anywhere.
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