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new feature; "All Tracks are Equal"
What about Bar Settings for Utility Tracks?


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Originally Posted By: bloc-head
new feature; "All Tracks are Equal"
What about Bar Settings for Utility Tracks?

With "All Tracks are Equal" feature the instrument volume changes menu can be handled better using Volume Automation within the Audio Editor Window.

I addressed this earlier today in another post ++ Here ++



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I am keeping a low profile... for now...and meditating.
Taking deep breaths. After dust is settled, I will scream! smile

P.S. As a "workaround" what Charlie mentioned, but I (Sincerely!) hope that will change for "at the bar" option.

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Originally Posted By: Rustyspoon#
I am keeping a low profile... for now...and meditating.
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P.S. As a "workaround" what Charlie mentioned, but I (Sincerely!) hope that will change for "at the bar" option.


Play with it a bit. It's much better. Faster, more intuitive and gives far more precise control and the added benefit of WAV Instructions auto cross-fading (selectable length) that always creates smooth transitions and avoids abrupt cut-offs of beginnings and endings of the highlighted regions. Plus the user has access to all of the editing options with two clicks of the mouse and no menu hopping. This is not a work around but one of many features PG Music has been incrementally building over the last several years.

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Charlie,
I disagree:
"Faster, more intuitive". I can mute all legacy track at the bar with 3 clicks. How long it will take me to mute 12 utility tracks at specific bar, release mute, etc?

I do a rough cut arrangement in BIAB, the rest is done in DAW. Speed is essential in BIAB for me.
I do applaud node feature. It is a useful tool for fine tuning, cutting out parts, etc. but it should not be a substitute for batch logic at "bar settings"

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If all track are equal then they all need the same features. The automation is awesome I use it constantly in the daw having it inside BiaB is great still i love the bar settings window. Fast manipulation of the tracks. I suspect the maturation of the All track are equal is still fluid.


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I suspect the maturation of the All track are equal is still fluid.


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You can almost guarantee it. Many features are still fluid. Peter has mentioned that some of the features are in the process of being fully implemented, and will grow as time goes on.


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I'm still rather new with BIAB, just upgraded to 2022 v.908. Utility tracks are not displayed in the mixer panel. Not sure why. Help!

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I'm still rather new with BIAB, just upgraded to 2022 v.908. Utility tracks are not displayed in the mixer panel. Not sure why. Help!


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Originally Posted By: Charlie Fogle
Originally Posted By: bloc-head
new feature; "All Tracks are Equal"
What about Bar Settings for Utility Tracks?

With "All Tracks are Equal" feature the instrument volume changes menu can be handled better using Volume Automation within the Audio Editor Window.

I addressed this earlier today in another post ++ Here ++

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I too miss "Bar Settings". The "Volume Automation" feature does NOT appear to be available for MIDI tracks.

AND...
"Bar Settings" had been a place, where you were to be able to adjust a setting for "All Instruments" in one place, while making exceptions for specific instruments, without having to jump around to edit many individual tracks, when trying to change levels on multiple tracks. Unless I'm missing something...

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<< The "Volume Automation" feature does NOT appear to be available for MIDI tracks. >>

Yes and no.... Volume automation in the Audio Editor is only applied to audio. Midi velocity is edited as midi data unless a midi track is rendered to audio, then "Volume Automation" in the audio editor can be used.

<< "Bar Settings" had been a place, where you were to be able to adjust a setting for "All Instruments" in one place, while making exceptions for specific instruments, without having to jump around to edit many individual tracks, when trying to change levels on multiple tracks. >>

Users are still able to adjust a setting for "All Instruments" using the BIAB Mixer and make adjustments for specific instruments as needed. Grabbing a Volume, panning or reverb slider in the Mixer with the mouse while holding the keyboard Ctrl key will move all of the sliders at the same time. All tracks can also be Muted from the BIAB Mixer by using the Master Track Mute button.


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Thunderthud, I did a test on volume automation using a Super Midi track and the volume automation worked great. It works if a patch from the built in synth is applied. make sure when you add the Volume nodes and adjust them you then regenerate the song.


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Originally Posted By: Charlie Fogle
<< The "Volume Automation" feature does NOT appear to be available for MIDI tracks. >>

Yes and no.... Volume automation in the Audio Editor is only applied to audio. Midi velocity is edited as midi data unless a midi track is rendered to audio, then "Volume Automation" in the audio editor can be used.


Yes and no.... Volume automation in the Audio Editor is only applied to audio. Midi velocity is edited as midi data unless a midi track is rendered to audio, then "Volume Automation" in the audio editor can be used.

YES BUT, Rendering tracks to audio increases file size substantially, and are not as easily manipulated, (making Utility tracks NOT Equal).


Users are still able to adjust a setting for "All Instruments" using the BIAB Mixer and make adjustments for specific instruments as needed. Grabbing a Volume, panning or reverb slider in the Mixer with the mouse while holding the keyboard Ctrl key will move all of the sliders at the same time. All tracks can also be Muted from the BIAB Mixer by using the Master Track Mute button.

The point was to be able to make changes at specific bars, for a specific periods, in multiple places. Not to make changes for the whole song.

But thank you anyway, for your thoughts.

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Thunderthud, I did a test on volume automation using a Super Midi track and the volume automation worked great. It works if a patch from the built in synth is applied. make sure when you add the Volume nodes and adjust them you then regenerate the song.


Super Midi tracks use the Plogue synth (built in), and have a flatline in the AuditEdit window, as well.

Also, the Notation Editor does not appear work for the Utility Tracks. If you select one to view, it reverts to the Melody Track.

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I'm not sure when you would use notation on a utility track? Most notation would be written in on the melody track. However i did some poking around and it seems that you cant edit a super midi track on a utility track, and if you add a midi style to one you can edit but it is a tad odd really


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Originally Posted By: Rob Helms
I'm not sure when you would use notation on a utility track? Most notation would be written in on the melody track. However i did some poking around and it seems that you cant edit a super midi track on a utility track, and if you add a midi style to one you can edit but it is a tad odd really


If you import a MIDI track to a Utility track, and it has embedded controls, such as volume, that you wish to delete or change, for example.

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