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Hi all..
So I'm a recent enough convert to band in a box.
I've been trying to use it in pro tools and it seems to not work at all?..
I might get it to generate once before it crashes the whole thing..
I'm running PT at 44.1 to use it, but it just seems to not want to do anything..
Any help at all?..
Thanks
Last edited by cqd; 12/18/21 02:50 PM.
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BIAB-VST V4 continues to struggle based on my perception of the situation. On top of that, individual DAWs have always been a challenge. We don't generally hear too much chatter in the forum regarding the ProTools version, so I can only assume in the past it has been workable. I do believe there is effort on the developer’s side to get over the hurdles. My hope is for positive news during December. I can tell you the Reaper and S1 folks are reporting much the same as you. We are all hanging in there. 
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Hello cqd,
I believe you are the first ProTool user that has commented on the plugin in the forum. For that reason I doubt if PG Music is receiving much, if any, feedback regarding plugin performance or is aware of any issues.
I'm sure it would be helpful if you posted some information about your ProTools system and whatever crash message you are seeing.
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Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
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Thanks Dan..
So it has previously been reasonably solid on pro tools?..
I saw on another thread there are new versions on the way so hopefully they'll sort it sooner rather than later..
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Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
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Hello Jim..
Yeah, true..
It's a gigabyte i9 9900k on Windows 10 with 64g ram..
I'm running pro tools 2021.12..which seems reasonably solid so far apart from this..
I've gotten a couple of access violations errors before some of the crashes.
I have disabled the windows microphone as I was getting an error notification in Biab at times..
I'm getting to generate maybe twice before it crashes..either with the access violation error or just a "pro tools has stopped working and will quit" error before the crash..
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When you get an Access Violation the window may include a button where you can copy to clipboard. The data copied to the clipboard is a data dump that will include pointers about what files are in use, what file crashed and what the file was trying to do.
If you attach the clipboard data as a text file to a post the file can provide a PG Music developer a lot of information about what went wrong.
Click the "Switch To Full Reply" button below and then File Manager to attach a text file.
Curious question, What audio and/or DSP hardware is in the ProTool system?
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Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
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Hey man..
Thanks..
I'm not getting any option to copy anything to clipboard..
I was thinking for a minute I was getting better performance running in wrapped as a vst in bluecat patchwork, but it's just after crashing there too..
It's pro tools native with a focusrite clarett 8prex..
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Thanks for the feedback. If ProTools accepts VST plugins have you tried using one of them instead? That might work better than putting the plugin in a wrapper even though the Black Cat Patchwork wrapper has a good reputation. The Band-in-a-Box plugin is available as both VST3 and VST2. The VST2 seems to be more crash resistant than the VST3 at this time. Last thought, if you haven't done so lately, make sure your PG Music software is up-to-date. The current update is +++ Build 908 +++. The plugin uses Band-in-a-Box resources as a background task so the issue could be with the program, not the plugin itself.
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Cheers Jim..
No, pro tools only runs AAX. To use vst you have to use patchwork or the like to wrap them.
I'll check for an update again, but I only installed it the other day. There are a couple of updates coming soon enough from what I saw on another thread though, so maybe one of them will sort it..
If it's generally OK in pro tools it might just be some anomaly around this installation..
Thanks anyway..
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Thanks once again for the feedback cqd. I'm sure there will additional updates, heck, 2021 was still updating in October. Again, I'm sorry none of my suggestions helped.
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Let me give you a suggestion not to use BIAB VST.
Use BIAB standalone. The appearance is the same as VST. Very easy to use.
When VST is perfect, use VST again
In fact, I think the independent version is better.
Location of standalone
X:\BB\BBPlugin\Files\Band-in-a-Box DAW Plugin Standalone.exe"
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Let me give you a suggestion not to use BIAB VST.
Use BIAB standalone. The appearance is the same as VST. Very easy to use.
When VST is perfect, use VST again
In fact, I think the independent version is better.
Location of standalone
X:\BB\BBPlugin\Files\Band-in-a-Box DAW Plugin Standalone.exe" This is always a good suggestion to use as a workaround. As for the AAX plugin, I've tested it on my old Pro Tools 12.4 and it's been stable so far. I personally have Pro Tools, Cakewalk, Reaper, Studio One 5, Performer 10.13, and Ableton Live 11, which for me have all performed well with the plugin, although in a couple cases I needed to use the VST2 version instead of VST3. The issues with the plugin I tend to see typically come from file access permissions. Running the DAW and/or plugin standalone as an administrator tends to help, or manually setting folder permissions for the DAW and BB to allow read/write for your user.
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