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Originally Posted By: Rustyspoon#
Matt,
Brilliant, It worked! I always run BIAB as administrator., but Cakewalk and standalone were not set to run as admin.
Thank you!!!
Side note... Sonic is the only plugin I have that would not allow two instances without admin rights.
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you installed e-licenser and registered Sonic in it right?
Originally Posted By: Rustyspoon#
Matt,
Brilliant, It worked! I always run BIAB as administrator., but Cakewalk and standalone were not set to run as admin.
Thank you!!!
Side note... Sonic is the only plugin I have that would not allow two instances without admin rights.
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you installed e-licenser and registered Sonic in it right?


I did,-Halion +dorico works fine as standalone, and Halion loads the dorico sound library


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Svenne,
I am not a Mac person, perhaps somebody can help you who owns Mac+Sonic.

Just a thought... In BIAB can you locate the actual plugin file in Preferences MIDI in the folder it was installed to? Can you chose it manually?

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Originally Posted By: Rustyspoon#
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I am not a Mac person, perhaps somebody can help you who owns Mac+Sonic.

Just a thought... In BIAB can you locate the actual plugin file in Preferences MIDI in the folder it was installed to? Can you chose it manually?




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Can you choose it as a "default" synth in BIAB? And try pressing "default synth" button?
Just trying to help...

My problem (not running as administrator) sometimes had issue of "releasing" standalone. Meaning if a standalone was opened and then closed, BIAB would still give error. But with Matt help, this is in the past.

C'mon nice Mac people, help smile

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Originally Posted By: Rustyspoon#
C'mon nice Mac people, help smile

Also, to the O/P: Svenne, did you post this issue in the Mac section of the forum? It may get better attention there also.


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works fine in RB - on some songs nicer than the TTS1. but RB forgets GM mode and if it wasn't for one of the posts above i would not have gone into 'options/program change/GM and i wouldn't have got it to work

but agree with one of the posts abovce, installing and activating steinberg programs is like crawling through broken glass

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Originally Posted By: Bob Calver
works fine in RB - on some songs nicer than the TTS1. but RB forgets GM mode and if it wasn't for one of the posts above i would not have gone into 'options/program change/GM and i wouldn't have got it to work

but agree with one of the posts abovce, installing and activating steinberg programs is like crawling through broken glass


I have seen this question before,RB should remember to load Halion as default synth with GM (though Halion takes longer to load when you start RB) if you go through the following steps.

1 right click on track

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thanks musiclover - will try!
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What musiclover posted is correct. That was confirmed to me by Jeff Yankauer. Go into Halion Sonic, make the settings for GM mode, then click on "Save Default DXi Synths". RB will keep the setting and Halion starts in GM Mode between sessions. However, if you choose something else as default and later go back to Halìon, you'll have to repeat the process of setting GM Mode and saving default settings again. Not elegant, but it's how it works.


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Thanks John for asking Jeff that, as it had been bothering me for a while too.


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Originally Posted By: Larry Kehl
This post is for those who DO NOT have any Steinberg Halion, Doric, Cubase or any other Steinberg programs with HALion sound content installed AND who also want a FREE good sounding GM sound set and player: THIS IS a 64-bit VSTi so you will need JBridge (or alternative) to use in Realband or the 32-bit version of BIAB.

If these, or similar instructions of how to get free HALion Sonic SE AND a free HAlion GM sound set to use in HALion Sonic SE then my apologies to whomever previously explained “how to" (starting from having zero Steinberg Halion sound content)

Enough ON TO THE FREE stuff - it is a multi-step process you will need to set up Steinberg account and install the FREE HAlion Sonic SE note it comes with no SOUNDS (yet)

https://www.steinberg.net/en/landing_pages/halion_sonic_se_3/halion_sonic_se_free.html

Then as Bob (aka jaamammal) recently points out in this thread:

https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=576766&Searchpage=1&Main=81228&Words=halion+sonic&Search=true#Post576766

https://new.steinberg.net/dorico/se/

Get the FREE Doric SE Notation program but MAINLY because comes with free Halion sounds that include the Steinberg Halion GM soundset. You can now use the standalone Halion Sonic SE with the GM soundset and the few other sounds that came with Doric SE or the 64-bit Halion VSTi (.dll and VST3) with 64-bit BIAB and 64-bit DAWs respectively (or as noted above if you have JBridge - its only $10, you can use with 32-bit Realband)

I just tested this all on a virgin laptop, well virgin with respect to zero Steinberg software installed.

Final note for BIAB use you may have to search for the “Halion Sonic SE.dll” it may not be in your default 64-bit plugins folder(s) (mine ended up in my Cakewalk VSTplugins folder for some reason).

Good Luck
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Wow, so I went through the process of getting Dorico, and Halion installed, activated and all that stuff you have to do through their download manager. I changed the mode to GM. Tried to open a MIDI file to play it within Halion, and nothing is happening, what did I miss?

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i bet its something simple. have you set the midi drivers in BIAB as it shows on page 8 of the 2022 manual? especially is 'use the vst/dxi synth' box ticked? halion should show in the drop down menu?

are you using BIAB or RB to play the file?

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I was actually just trying to use Halion to play the MIDI file directly. At the top of Halion, it has a little player, where you can load a midi file and play it (see my screenshot attached)

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Later on, I opened it, and it said license missing! I'm trying to remove everything and start over; what a nightmare this licensing/download assistance is, Is there a prescribed set of instructions for doing this?

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Ok disregard previous posts, I got it working, here's how for anyone else:

1) Install the Download Assistant
2) Then Dorico 4 SE
3) Then Halion Sonic SE

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From the manual:

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Support for 64-bit VST Plugins using jBridge
You can use your 64-bit VST plugins and VSTi instruments with Band-in-a-Box, using jBridge. Since Band-in-a-Box has built-in support for jBridge, you just use your plugins as you normally would, by selecting 32- or 64-bit plugins within Band-in-a-Box. (Note: jBridge is a third-party product.)

To use 64-bit plugins with Band-in-a-Box, you:

- Get and install jBridge,
- Select and use your 64- or 32-bit plugins within Band-in-a-Box, without any further setup or configuration!


The original poster said:

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THIS IS a 64-bit VSTi so you will need JBridge (or alternative) to use in Realband or the 32-bit version of BIAB.


So I'm a little confused. If I'm running the 64bit version of BIAB, do I need JBridge? The poster indicates that I Don't, but the manual says "to use 64 bit plugins with band in a box..."

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You do not need any "bridges" if you are running 64bit BIAB. Plug and play.
Make sure it is VST2, Not VST3. I do not believe BIAB supports VST3.

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