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How to achieve the SOLO DEMO RealTracks guitar sound from BIAB on my own laptop? #695464 01/01/22 01:29 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP huertaaj Enthusiast H Joined: Dec 2015 Posts: 33	If I go to BIAB online for RealTracks 395 as shown below... RealTracks Set 395 : Singer-Songwriter DADGAD Guitar with Quinn Bachand Then play the solo demo as shown below... Guitar, Nylon, Rhythm SongwriterSlow68DADGAD Sw 050 Solo Demo It sounds beautiful! However, if I go to RealTracks on my own laptop and try to reproduce that sound, the guitar sounds thin, higher-pitched, and not as full as the solo demo. How do I achieve that sound? Is it possible? Any recommendations? Thanks!!! Dell Laptop Core I7, 16 GB Ram, Windows 10/64, Studio One 5 Pro with Komplete 13 and lots of VST plugins, BIAB UltraPak 2022 Build 914

Re: How to achieve the SOLO DEMO RealTracks guitar sound from BIAB on my own laptop? huertaaj #695472 01/01/22 01:58 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Noel96 Veteran Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 19,832 Australia	Hi huertaaj, What version of BIAB do you own? (For example, the Megapak, Ultrapak, etc.) Also... Could you please explain the steps that you go through to load Realtrack 395 on your laptop? Regards, Noel MY SONGS... Audiophile BIAB 2025 audios on Soundcloud

Re: How to achieve the SOLO DEMO RealTracks guitar sound from BIAB on my own laptop? huertaaj #695474 01/01/22 02:03 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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DrDan Veteran Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,232 Wauconda	There is a number of these, did you try them all? Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) Capture.JPG (320.73 KB, 180 downloads) BIAB – 2025, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, 1TB WD Black NVMe SSD, 2TB WDC Blue SSD, 1TB WD Blue, 2 TB SK NVMe, 6 TB External, Motu Audio Express 6x6

Re: How to achieve the SOLO DEMO RealTracks guitar sound from BIAB on my own laptop? huertaaj #695476 01/01/22 02:06 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Noel96 Veteran Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 19,832 Australia	Dan, That's a great thought... Set 395! I was thinking of the single Realtrack #395. I should have checked the name. RT 395 is by Darin Favorite. Noel MY SONGS... Audiophile BIAB 2025 audios on Soundcloud

Re: How to achieve the SOLO DEMO RealTracks guitar sound from BIAB on my own laptop? huertaaj #695482 01/01/22 02:59 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP huertaaj Enthusiast H Joined: Dec 2015 Posts: 33	Sorry, I should have been more clear. I am running BIAB 2022 UltraPak on Windows 10/64 (just upgraded yesterday). I KNOW that I'm using the correct RealTracks file on my laptop and even checked with the CHAT help on the BIAB help page. As I mentioned, it sounds thin on my computer, not so full and lush as it does on the solo demo on the BIAB website. Dell Laptop Core I7, 16 GB Ram, Windows 10/64, Studio One 5 Pro with Komplete 13 and lots of VST plugins, BIAB UltraPak 2022 Build 914

Re: How to achieve the SOLO DEMO RealTracks guitar sound from BIAB on my own laptop? huertaaj #695489 01/01/22 03:46 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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DrDan Veteran Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,232 Wauconda	Have you tuned your laptop to DADGAD. BIAB – 2025, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, 1TB WD Black NVMe SSD, 2TB WDC Blue SSD, 1TB WD Blue, 2 TB SK NVMe, 6 TB External, Motu Audio Express 6x6

Re: How to achieve the SOLO DEMO RealTracks guitar sound from BIAB on my own laptop? huertaaj #695492 01/01/22 03:52 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP huertaaj Enthusiast H Joined: Dec 2015 Posts: 33	Hardyharhar I already tuned my laptop to DADGAG... So what I do to check the sound of that solo guitar on my computer is the following... 1) Run BIAB 2022 and load the Style named _Loftsun which corresponds to the RealTrack named Guitar, Nylon, Rhythm SongwriterSlow68DADGAD Sw 050 Solo Demo Compare a solo of Guitar 2 in the computer with what you hear on the online demo RealTrack file. They don't sound the same. What is going on? Also, why don't they name these two things (RealStyles and RealTracks) the same or something more similar? Basically, if I hear a demo online and say..."Hey I want that" but then after buying it there is no way to reproduce that sound. Sort of maddening. Last edited by huertaaj; 01/01/22 04:57 PM. Dell Laptop Core I7, 16 GB Ram, Windows 10/64, Studio One 5 Pro with Komplete 13 and lots of VST plugins, BIAB UltraPak 2022 Build 914

Re: How to achieve the SOLO DEMO RealTracks guitar sound from BIAB on my own laptop? huertaaj #695494 01/01/22 04:44 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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DrDan Veteran Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,232 Wauconda	Glad you understood my humor. So what exactly does not sound right? There are eight different real tracks in Set 395. Different picking/strumming patterns and different tones. Is it one or all of the RTs in the set 395 that is a problem for you. I listened to one of them and it sounds OK on short listen. Meaning it sounded similar to the demo on the company website. BIAB – 2025, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, 1TB WD Black NVMe SSD, 2TB WDC Blue SSD, 1TB WD Blue, 2 TB SK NVMe, 6 TB External, Motu Audio Express 6x6

Re: How to achieve the SOLO DEMO RealTracks guitar sound from BIAB on my own laptop? huertaaj #695496 01/01/22 04:59 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP huertaaj Enthusiast H Joined: Dec 2015 Posts: 33	Hi MusicStudent: Yes I did understand your humor I edited my latest post above to better explain the situation Dell Laptop Core I7, 16 GB Ram, Windows 10/64, Studio One 5 Pro with Komplete 13 and lots of VST plugins, BIAB UltraPak 2022 Build 914

Re: How to achieve the SOLO DEMO RealTracks guitar sound from BIAB on my own laptop? huertaaj #695501 01/01/22 05:19 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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DrDan Veteran Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,232 Wauconda	[quote=huertaajI edited my latest post above to better explain the situation [/quote] Will look and listen first thing in the morning. Hope we can figure this out. BIAB – 2025, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, 1TB WD Black NVMe SSD, 2TB WDC Blue SSD, 1TB WD Blue, 2 TB SK NVMe, 6 TB External, Motu Audio Express 6x6

Re: How to achieve the SOLO DEMO RealTracks guitar sound from BIAB on my own laptop? huertaaj #695502 01/01/22 05:23 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP huertaaj Enthusiast H Joined: Dec 2015 Posts: 33	OK, now I'm really getting disappointed. I compared a different set of files and I'm COMPLETELY disappointed with what BIAB offers via their demo vs what one gets after downloading. For example...look at RealTracks 391 online on the BIAB page and it shows several acoustic guitars (that is what I want, acoustic guitars!). So, the solo demos sound great as acoustic guitars. However, if you purchase the UltraPak version of BIAB and load a Style filtered using 391 go ahead and play all the examples and there are NO acoustic guitars in the group. Am I the only one that sees and hears this or can anyone else confirm? Am I not doing this properly? Is there a way to find and reproduce the Acoustic guitars shown in the RealStyles #391 on my own computer? Maybe I'm just going about this all wrong. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks Last edited by huertaaj; 01/01/22 05:27 PM. Dell Laptop Core I7, 16 GB Ram, Windows 10/64, Studio One 5 Pro with Komplete 13 and lots of VST plugins, BIAB UltraPak 2022 Build 914

Re: How to achieve the SOLO DEMO RealTracks guitar sound from BIAB on my own laptop? huertaaj #695537 01/01/22 10:50 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Noel96 Veteran Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 19,832 Australia	Hi huertaaj, Try following my instructions in the below pdf. This will allow you to listen to all the styles that use Realtrack Set #395 (Quinn Bachand). I hope this helps, Noel Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) HOW TO find styles associated with specific realtrack set.pdf (246.61 KB, 20 downloads) MY SONGS... Audiophile BIAB 2025 audios on Soundcloud

Re: How to achieve the SOLO DEMO RealTracks guitar sound from BIAB on my own laptop? Noel96 #695571 01/02/22 04:15 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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etcjoe Journeyman Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 732 Florida	Originally Posted By: Noel96 Hi huertaaj, Try following my instructions in the below pdf. This will allow you to listen to all the styles that use Realtrack Set #395 (Quinn Bachand). I hope this helps, Noel Excellent and clear instructions. My wife asked if I had seen the dog bowl. I told her I didn't even know he could.

Re: How to achieve the SOLO DEMO RealTracks guitar sound from BIAB on my own laptop? huertaaj #695581 01/02/22 04:43 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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DrDan Veteran Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,232 Wauconda	Originally Posted By: huertaaj 1) Run BIAB 2022 and load the Style named _Loftsun which corresponds to the RealTrack named Guitar, Nylon, Rhythm SongwriterSlow68DADGAD Sw 050 Solo Demo Compare a solo of Guitar 2 in the computer with what you hear on the online demo RealTrack file. They don't sound the same. What is going on? I did an A vrs B of this content you indicated above: RT 3913 with Set # 203 . I listed in Solo mode only (no band). I did the same with one other pair (both the 50 bpm tracks) comparing what is on the web versus the sound of the RT from in the RT Picker. The picking pattern was the identical for the two pairs I listened to. Maybe?.... there was some EQ differences, the web a bit darker and more bass. But this is very minor. I will listen to one or two more, but I think I am not hearing anything that objectionable. Your ears may be different than mine. I did not load "the Style named _Loftsun" since I only compared the direct RTs. Maybe I now need to listen to the demo mix? Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) A B Sound Demo Set 395.JPG (353.86 KB, 109 downloads) BIAB – 2025, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, 1TB WD Black NVMe SSD, 2TB WDC Blue SSD, 1TB WD Blue, 2 TB SK NVMe, 6 TB External, Motu Audio Express 6x6

Re: How to achieve the SOLO DEMO RealTracks guitar sound from BIAB on my own laptop? DrDan #695586 01/02/22 05:13 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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DrDan Veteran Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,232 Wauconda	Quote: I did not load "the Style named _Loftsun" since I only compared the direct RTs. Maybe I now need to listen to the demo mix? OK, Something is different to my ears. Something done in this demo song to the track which has changed the RT pattern and sound. Keep in mind, this is a demo song made by PGM. They will often tweek the arrangement and sounds to their tastes. Or, this is just a messed up RT in the Demo? So try this. I inserted the exact same RT #3913 into the Melody track of the demo song and soloed it. It now sounds just like the web. Is that the fix for you?? BIAB – 2025, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, 1TB WD Black NVMe SSD, 2TB WDC Blue SSD, 1TB WD Blue, 2 TB SK NVMe, 6 TB External, Motu Audio Express 6x6

Re: How to achieve the SOLO DEMO RealTracks guitar sound from BIAB on my own laptop? huertaaj #695635 01/02/22 08:47 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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bloc-head Expert Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,373 Southeast USA	Sorry to hijack, but this same Demo Song has other issues... I loaded _LOFTSUN demo song... generated tracks and played. I then loaded a different Real Drum track. The RD track description changes but the RD track does not. It's the same awful (multi) drum track. Nothing is frozen. I've tried several different RDs, and nothing changes except the track description. (using latest pre-release build) EDIT: I cannot erase or substitute the RealDrums in style:Mallets and Cajon [Multi] the Cajon sounds great, but the rolling toms (multi part) in background are awful and out of tune... Last edited by bloc-head; 01/02/22 09:48 AM. Bandcamp Soundcloud Win-11; BiaB-2025 Audiophile Cakewalk; Melodyne-5; Scaler 2; NI Komplete: Focusrite Scarlett 18i20

Re: How to achieve the SOLO DEMO RealTracks guitar sound from BIAB on my own laptop? huertaaj #695692 01/02/22 11:54 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP huertaaj Enthusiast H Joined: Dec 2015 Posts: 33	Hi Noel96. WOW, what a great tutorial on finding the sounds that I want! I'm somewhat new to BIAB, even though I have been dabbling with it briefly here and there for 20 years, I've never really been able to get into it as much as I have wanted to due to my job. However, now that I'm retired I do have the time. How fun!!!! I'm beginning to figure the system out now with the help of others on the forum. I still think that the "solo demo" that is RealTracks online sounds much better and more full than what I hear when played on my laptop. I think that MusicStudent is right in saying that the "demos" are heavily doctored in such a way using equalizers, etc. to make them sound much better than the "dry" version that is downloaded. I'll have to figure out how to manipulate the sound from Guitar 2 (the rhythm guitar) using Studio One 5 Pro. I really like the "fullness" of the solo demo and want to get that sound on my laptop using my own chords, not the demo chords. Dell Laptop Core I7, 16 GB Ram, Windows 10/64, Studio One 5 Pro with Komplete 13 and lots of VST plugins, BIAB UltraPak 2022 Build 914

Re: How to achieve the SOLO DEMO RealTracks guitar sound from BIAB on my own laptop? huertaaj #695699 01/02/22 12:06 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Rob Helms Veteran R Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 8,502 Pawling New York	Remember that you can process or effect the RTs right inside BiaB. click the plugin tab on the BiaB mixer and add the dynamics plug, and tinker with that. maybe tweak the reverb, experiment with the eqs and such. Drag the tracks to Studio one and add fx in the mixer there. HP Win 11 12 gig ram, Mac mini Sonoma with 16 gig of ram, BiaB 2025, Realband, Reaper 7, Harrison Mixbus 9 32c , Melodyne 5 editor, Presonus Audiobox 1818VSL, Presonus control app.

Re: How to achieve the SOLO DEMO RealTracks guitar sound from BIAB on my own laptop? huertaaj #695701 01/02/22 12:17 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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DrDan Veteran Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,232 Wauconda	Quote: I think that MusicStudent is right in saying that the "demos" are heavily doctored in such a way using equalizers, etc. to make them sound much better than the "dry" version that is downloaded. Not exactly what I said. I actually felt that the RT was a mess in the Demo song (likely due to some corruption) and when I inserted the exact same RT into the song on a different track it sounded much better, just like the web example. Did you try that? BIAB – 2025, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, 1TB WD Black NVMe SSD, 2TB WDC Blue SSD, 1TB WD Blue, 2 TB SK NVMe, 6 TB External, Motu Audio Express 6x6

Re: How to achieve the SOLO DEMO RealTracks guitar sound from BIAB on my own laptop? DrDan #695717 01/02/22 01:57 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Noel96 Veteran Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 19,832 Australia	Originally Posted By: MusicStudent [quote]Something done in this demo song to the track which has changed the RT pattern and sound. Keep in mind, this is a demo song made by PGM. They will often tweek the arrangement and sounds to their tastes. Or, this is just a messed up RT in the Demo? Hi Dan, I hope you don't mind my mentioning this... Peter Gannon has pointed out a couple of times over the years that PG Music do not tweak any demos. They use the renderings directly from the demo file. The demos are obtained from the Audiophile software so that would impact a little bit on the sound but not hugely. With this in mind, if there is an obvious mismatch in sound between PG Music's demo and the way BIAB plays the demo file, then there is most likely a Realtrack problem with the wrong Realtrack being assigned somewhere. Regards, Noel MY SONGS... Audiophile BIAB 2025 audios on Soundcloud

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