Hi Simon
Again thanks for the advice and I will look up those suggestions,
I appeared to have two major problems and a couple of smaller fixes

I use Reaper and it has 5 pan modes and I was using ther wrong one for the Stereo Real Tracks and I also had a reverb problem and I solved this by using two dedicated reverb channels one for the mid and one for the side information .I also panned all my reverb of the instrumental backing track to get it out of the way of the vocal.
I also used more compression which was suggested.
The other was I was using a vocal i had got done that I had used for the same song in a completely different genre which didnt suit.A smaller issue but relevant

Thanks for the detailed advice and i will post my song for a listen as soon as its ready
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