Hi Gary. Sorry about your experience with Archos. We bought a refurbished one and it has served us very well. I think that it is probably more than 5 years old although we've only had it for a year and a half. We bought it because the buttons are easy to find on the gig and it has a 20GB HD. It's the Jukebox model. It's battery powered but we always run it off ac. I think JR Electronics was where we bought it. We also have a Sandisk Sansa, but I can't seem to use the controls on it while out on a gig. FWIW

Stan


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