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bloc-head #698467 01/14/22 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted By: bloc-head
Resolved is an understatement... This is brilliant. The Elec piano is perfect... The cello counterpoint works so well, and Acoustic Guitar at the end is a really nice touch... Great work Mark...

thank you thank you thank you

All the abstract business with inversion works, I think, in a real psychological/emotional way, I consciously used it to try to create a little "story arc" here: you leave home to wander, things get beautiful / wild / weird, you come home again. I'm happy with this as an attempt at that. Pretty mushy stuff at the end!

Really really really glad you liked, thanks again.

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That's really cool.
My only suggestion would be to tweak the top end of each instrument as it gets a little bright verging on strident as it builds.
Well done yet again...and well done technology for ably assisting.


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Great finished product, the piano was wonderful. Thumbs up from here!


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Man, you sure know how to bring out the magic in the music, Mark, and I liked the spiffy colored diagram. Such a good write. The counterpart and choice of instruments is just perfect.

Guess that answers a question I had about Resolved. Often I want to thank folks dfor commenting, but I'm reluctant to bring a song back to the top. I was wondering if that would be the way.

I just listened to each rendition of this masterpiece, and you sure made terrific choices along the way.


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Originally Posted By: rayc
My only suggestion would be to tweak the top end of each instrument as it gets a little bright verging on strident as it builds.

Absolutely, I will tend to that forthwith*. Don't know how I let it slip the first time, I guess it was late and my sleepy brain needed the treble buzz.

True Confession: This is probably the result of overreliance on Izotope presets. I need to get in there and do more thingies with the doodads.

Thanks, Ray.

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* Done, or at least attempted, in the currently linked "golden" version.

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Originally Posted By: TuneMonger
Great finished product, the piano was wonderful. Thumbs up from here!

Thanks! There were three keyboards in there at various points: a grand piano, an orchestral celesta, and what Logic calls a "nylon synth piano".

If you listen to the very beginning, the slow chords use the nylon piano, which has a wonderfully soft sound.

Thanks again!

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Originally Posted By: BabuMusic
Guess that answers a question I had about Resolved. Often I want to thank folks for commenting, but I'm reluctant to bring a song back to the top. I was wondering if that would be the way.

Yeah, I noticed that option and thought, what does that even mean, so of course I clicked it. My idea was to say, "Mission accomplished: here's the piece I started this thread to commit myself to making."

I don't know about using that to thank people for their comments normally, though. It might look like you're saying, "Enough, you're repeating yourselves" or, from the viewpoint of future readers, "This thread is DONE, do not resuscitate".

Anyway! My deep thanks for your consideration and kind words.

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Hi, Mark.

Normally, if that much work goes into a song, it's probably better to repost it. Otherwise, it's likely to be missed by people who have commented on it, and might not realize it's been reworked.

I'm talking about people like me, of course. wink

There are a few points where the recorder is masked by the piano.

The middle section didn't work that well for me, mostly because I wasn't a fan of the brass patch. That's not a suggestion that it needs to be changed, though.

The huge reverb at the end was a bit jolting, but less so than other things you've posted. laugh

Pretty tune, engaging counterpoint. This works really nicely.


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Hi Mark
Maybe its me but I didn't like (or maybe just not 'get') the Inverted versions. Too 'clever' and lost the soul of the tune and its simplicity.
But, ah, this finished version is just beautiful!!
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Originally Posted By: dcuny
Normally, if that much work goes into a song, it's probably better to repost it. Otherwise, it's likely to be missed by people who have commented on it, and might not realize it's been reworked.

Yeah, I anguished about that, but in the end I decided against a new thread so as to not hog shelf space. It seemed uncool to have Clorox Demo and Clorox Golden Master on the bleach shelves at the same time. It's a tricky issue.

Originally Posted By: dcuny
I'm talking about people like me, of course. wink

Which means you're interested and for that I thank you once again.

Originally Posted By: dcuny
There are a few points where the recorder is masked by the piano.

Sigh. I try! I do, but then I give up. Every now and then a single note just disappears in the mix and I cannot pull it back out. This is an ongoing challenge I am working on, and I thank you for not letting me skate on this. (Who was that "masked" man?)

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The middle section didn't work that well for me, mostly because I wasn't a fan of the brass patch. That's not a suggestion that it needs to be changed, though.

That horn part is kind of dear to my heart, so I wouldn't give it up. But I am sure I could have rendered it better.

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The huge reverb at the end was a bit jolting, but less so than other things you've posted. laugh

For some reason, the trick of tacking that on felt like an old-fashioned vinyl thing. Now I'm thinking: next time I'll have a repeating play-out groove. I'll have a short phrase repeat for like a half hour, so the listener will be forced to manually interrupt play, just like with a turntable! I love this idea. I will be sure to include a warning. =8^)

Originally Posted By: dcuny
Pretty tune, engaging counterpoint. This works really nicely.

Thanks, David.

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Originally Posted By: sixchannel
Maybe its me but I didn't like (or maybe just not 'get') the Inverted versions. Too 'clever' and lost the soul of the tune and its simplicity. But, ah, this finished version is just beautiful!!

Hi, Ian. I appreciate the comment. As for "too clever" – I suspect my "work in progress" comments may have contributed to that. So never mind inversion and architecture, I would hope to be able to offer this music without all that talk and it will sound OK. I love the old simple song, but I'm no Irish folksinger, so this is what I do. =8)

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Originally Posted By: Mark Hayes
Carrickfergus 1.0 / Golden Master = final version (with bugs)

https://soundcloud.com/mark_hayes/carrickfergus-10
A very enjoyable and delicate treatment of this piece. And, yes, the high guitar at the end was exquisite.
Thanks for sharing and for taking us on your journey.
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Originally Posted By: Mark Hayes
Carrickfergus 1.0 / Golden Master = final version (with bugs)
https://soundcloud.com/mark_hayes/carrickfergus-10

A very enjoyable and delicate treatment of this piece.
And, yes, the high guitar at the end was exquisite.
Thanks for sharing and for taking us on your journey.

Glad you liked, especially glad you liked the ending!

I was looking for BIAB styles I might want to use, and really liked that one, but it was in 3/4 and the rest of the piece was in 4/4. I tried a few tricks to bolt the two together but it all sounded very inorganic. Then I thought, well, just tack on a few seconds as an afterthought, a sideways look at the path not taken.

I said this to Mr. Cuny:

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For some reason, the trick of tacking that on felt like an old-fashioned vinyl thing. Now I'm thinking: next time I'll have a repeating play-out groove. I'll have a short phrase repeat for like a half hour, so the listener will be forced to manually interrupt play, just like with a turntable!

I am TOO SERIOUS about this, and THIS CLOSE (fingers held itty-bitty distance apart) to actually doing it! I just can't imagine getting away with that kind of performance art without being totally annoying to listeners who didn't follow the program. ("Too long! It was OK up to a point, but that ending was intolerable, it sounded like a broken record! Sorry, I had to turn it off!")

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