I want to change my count in to 1 2 123 because I need 4 to be the first chord in bar 1.
Hmmm, I'm not so sure about the count-in ever being able to do that. Well, at least I have never tried this.
Could you try making the first bar one beat long (using function key <F5>) and then return to 4 beats on the following bar?
Perhaps not. I just tried it and it is quite confusing.
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OK, here's another way that might work: Make the first 2 beats a Rest (C.), then enter a comma before the chord on the RHS cell (,C). You will get the first note playing on beat 4 and then the song continues:
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Does not work. they must fix the count in. It is there. Why does it not work. you should be able to count in 12 123 on the 2 x count in bars then start with 4 on the first beat of bar one. Millions of songs require this !!
you should be able to count in 12 123 on the 2 x count in bars then start with 4 on the first beat of bar one. Millions of songs require this !!
I don't recall a count-in where the 4th beat of the count-in occurred on the 1st beat of the first bar.
But from your description, they obviously exist. Could you name a small number of these songs so I can listen and get an idea?
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I am trying to do an arrangement of Jailhouse Rock by Elvis Presley.
Listen to the intro.
12 123 D#,E then 2 snare beats . Repeated.
The D# is the 4th count of the count in and the Ist beat of bar 1.
regards
With respect, I think you may be interpreting the count-in incorrectly. The very first note of the intro to Jailhouse Rock is on beat 4, not beat 1. The D# is beat 4. The E is the first beat of the next bar. This is my interpretation of how I hear the count in:
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Separately, maybe I've missed something and I would be keen on anyone else's comments about a count-in where the 4th beat of the count-in occurs on the 1st beat of the first bar, but I still think the above answer is actually correct.
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Separately, maybe I've missed something and I would be keen on anyone else's comments about a count-in where the 4th beat of the count-in occurs on the 1st beat of the first bar, but I still think the above answer is actually correct.
I don't understnad the "4th beat of the count-in occurs on the 1st beat of the first bar" . What you have would work for me but perhaps Jerry and Mike had that pickup note on an eight note, the "and" following beat 4.
Separately, maybe I've missed something and I would be keen on anyone else's comments about a count-in where the 4th beat of the count-in occurs on the 1st beat of the first bar, but I still think the above answer is actually correct.
I don't understand the "4th beat of the count-in occurs on the 1st beat of the first bar" . What you have would work for me but perhaps Jerry and Mike had that pickup note on an eight note, the "and" following beat 4.
Thanks for weighing in Dan. In the attachment you have, the pickup note is actually on the 'and' of the preceding beat to the last beat of the intro. (Well, technically it's shown as a 2 beat intro, so it's on the 'and' of the first beat - I could discuss the quaver rest followed by the dotted crotchets - but I'm really not trying to confuse this any more though )
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??, be gentle remember I am a guitar player. Here is my count in...
Yep, that's perfect.
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To me, the choice of Jailhouse Rock definitely indicates that that the poster has misunderstood pick-up/anacrucis notes.
The anacrucis is on (the) and the main beats of the song are on (WA)rder (PA)rty (CO)unty (JA)il, precisely where one would expect them in a 4/4.
That takes me back many years to my mobile disco days. I quite often used to segway from Jailhouse Rock into 10cc's Rubber Bullets, with the sirens introducing the latter coming in over the tail end of the former.
Last edited by Gordon Scott; 01/16/2205:12 AM.
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To me, the choice of Jailhouse Rock definitely indicates that that the poster has misunderstood pick-up/anacrucis notes.
The anacrucis is on (the) and the main beats of the song are on (WA)rder (PA)rty (CO)unty (JA)il, precisely where one would expect them in a 4/4.
Yep, I definitely agree. The very first ('the') is unstressed with the emphasis on (WA)rden in the first beat of the bar (the downbeat).
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