|
Log in to post
|
Print Thread |
|
|
|
|
|
Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)
|
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 842
Expert
|
OP
Expert
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 842 |
I installed BIAB 2020 (not the RealTracks and RealDrums) on my C drive (SSD) today and discovered it takes up a bit more space than I was led to believe. So now the situation on my C drive (SSD) is 91gb used and 27gb free, which, according to my maths means only 22% free.
I have plenty of space on my D drive - 462gb used, 469gb free - where my previous installations of RealTracks and RealDrums are already installed.
If I want to install the entire BIAB2020, including RTs and RDs to my D drive (HDD), is it OK to just uninstall the program from my C drive before commencing. I have not activated the program with the serial number yet.
Also, do I simply uninstall the program on my C drive via the usual Windows uninstall function?
Thanks in advance,
Mike
Mike Garry BIAB 2025/RealBand (5), UltraPak, Kontakt, EZmix, Ozone 9 Elements, Audacity, MSi PC, Windows 11, 64bit, 16GB ram, CPU: Intel i7. https://soundcloud.com/user-952388172
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 20,494
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 20,494 |
Hi Mike,
You only need to copy it over to D: and then delete your C: drive installation.
If it doesn't automatically work once you've copied it, run the installation file with "minimum" setup and point everything to D\bb.
That should do it for you. I've done it many times over the years.
Regards,
Noel
MY SONGS...Audiophile BIAB 2026
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)
|
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 842
Expert
|
|
OP
Expert
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 842 |
Hi Mike,
You only need to copy it over to D: and then delete your C: drive installation.
If it doesn't automatically work once you've copied it, run the installation file with "minimum" setup and point everything to D\bb.
That should do it for you. I've done it many times over the years.
Regards,
Noel Thanks Noel. Do you mean copy the entire contents of C:\bb to D:\bb or drag the C:\bb folder into the D:\bb folder? Also how do I install the RTs and RDs from the BIAB USB 3.0 drive to D drive? Do I uninstall the program on my C drive via the usual Windows uninstall function? Cheers, Mike
Mike Garry BIAB 2025/RealBand (5), UltraPak, Kontakt, EZmix, Ozone 9 Elements, Audacity, MSi PC, Windows 11, 64bit, 16GB ram, CPU: Intel i7. https://soundcloud.com/user-952388172
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 20,494
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 20,494 |
Hi Mike,
What I've always done is to simply copy the entire folder across to my new drive and then manually delete the folder on my previous drive.
If you use Windows uninstall, you'll need to reinstall the whole program. Reinstalling completely new can involve losing things if you've had BIAB for a few years. Re-installation doesn't consider things that you picked up in bonus files over the years. So unless that material has been added to the present installation, you might not get it in your re-installation.
If you drag the folder across and choose "Copy," that's the same as doing what I've said. If you choose "Move", though, my experience is that it's a much slower process because it involves copying files and deleting files. I have always found it prudent to keep the original files in place until I'm sure I've got everything I need.
With your new Realtracks, you would only need to install the .exe files to for those Realtracks D:\bb once you've copied everything to D: drive.
Regards,
Noel
MY SONGS...Audiophile BIAB 2026
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)
|
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 842
Expert
|
|
OP
Expert
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 842 |
Hi Mike,
What I've always done is to simply copy the entire folder across to my new drive and then manually delete the folder on my previous drive.
If you use Windows uninstall, you'll need to reinstall the whole program. Reinstalling completely new can involve losing things if you've had BIAB for a few years. Re-installation doesn't consider things that you picked up in bonus files over the years. So unless that material has been added to the present installation, you might not get it in your re-installation.
If you drag the folder across and choose "Copy," that's the same as doing what I've said. If you choose "Move", though, my experience is that it's a much slower process because it involves copying files and deleting files. I have always found it prudent to keep the original files in place until I'm sure I've got everything I need.
With your new Realtracks, you would only need to install the .exe files to for those Realtracks D:\bb once you've copied everything to D: drive.
Regards,
Noel Sorry to sound a bit dumb Noel but I'm still not sure what you mean. If I copy the C:\bb FOLDER (as opposed to just the files in the folder) won't that give me two bb folders on my D drive". I also don't understand what you meant about how to install the new RTs and RDs from BIAB2022 USB 3.0 drive. Which exe files and how do I install them? Thanks for your patience, Mike
Mike Garry BIAB 2025/RealBand (5), UltraPak, Kontakt, EZmix, Ozone 9 Elements, Audacity, MSi PC, Windows 11, 64bit, 16GB ram, CPU: Intel i7. https://soundcloud.com/user-952388172
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)
|
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 7,220
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 7,220 |
Mike, you can rename your D: bb folder to something like 1bb. Copy C: bb folder to D:
When you open BIAB, point RT / RD Custom locations to your 1bb folder in preferences.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)
|
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 842
Expert
|
|
OP
Expert
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 842 |
Mike, you can rename your D: bb folder to something like 1bb. Copy C: bb folder to D:
When you open BIAB, point RT / RD Custom locations to your 1bb folder in preferences.
Thanks Misha. That should solve my dilemma re duplicate bb folders but how do I add the new RTs and RDs (on the USB 3.0 drive) to my current RTs and RDs on D drive. Thanks, Mike
Mike Garry BIAB 2025/RealBand (5), UltraPak, Kontakt, EZmix, Ozone 9 Elements, Audacity, MSi PC, Windows 11, 64bit, 16GB ram, CPU: Intel i7. https://soundcloud.com/user-952388172
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 20,494
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 20,494 |
Mike,
I didn't see in your original post that your RTs and RDs were on D: Sorry.
The easiest way to install the new RTs and RDs would be use PG Music's installed and just have the RTs and RDs checked. Seeing you purchased the UltraPlusPak, I'm guessing that PG Music sent you a link to download the install files.
I suggest using Direct Chat to talk to someone at PG Music as ask them how to install just the RTs and RDs. Also tell them where the RTs and RDs are presently installed. Don't forget to point out that the present installation doesn't include 2022 RTs/RDs. PG Music may have a different suggestion.
Regards,
Noel
MY SONGS...Audiophile BIAB 2026
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)
|
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 2,646
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 2,646 |
Hi Mike,
Windows know to copy the content.
You should be able to just drag and drop the C:/bb folder itself onto the D:/bb folder. If there are conflicts, the Windows copy will ask you what to do and will offer something like "do this for all files".
Gordon.
Jazz relative beginner, starting at a much older age than was helpful.
AVL:MXE Linux; Windows 11
BIAB2026 Audiophile, a bunch of other software.
Kawai MP6, Ui24R, Focusrite Saffire Pro40 and Scarletts
.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 734
Journeyman
|
|
Journeyman
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 734 |
Hi Mike,
Windows know to copy the content.
You should be able to just drag and drop the C:/bb folder itself onto the D:/bb folder. If there are conflicts, the Windows copy will ask you what to do and will offer something like "do this for all files".
Gordon. This is the cleanest way to do it. Windows will tell you a file already exists, leave it or overwrite it, and you can choose the option "do this for all files of this type" on that dialog so you don't have to babysit it. Once you have verified everything is there on D, you can delete C:\bb. Anytime you run an update etc. just make sure to tell it you are on D:\bb vice C. Once you do it the first time, it will remember each subsequent time after that, at least that is my experience.
My wife asked if I had seen the dog bowl. I told her I didn't even know he could.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)
|
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 842
Expert
|
|
OP
Expert
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 842 |
Thanks Noel, Misha, Gordon and etcjoe,
I seem to have successfully copied BIAB2020 to my D drive. It all seems to be working OK.
The only thing I need help with now is how to install the new RDs and RTs to my current RDs and RTs folders on my D drive.
If I try for a custom install of the tracks I'm told my C drive does not have enough space for installation. There doesn't seem to be an option to install to D drive. I haven't yet deleted BIAB from my C drive.
Any clues anybody?
Mike
Last edited by mkg50 (Mike G); 01/16/22 12:55 PM.
Mike Garry BIAB 2025/RealBand (5), UltraPak, Kontakt, EZmix, Ozone 9 Elements, Audacity, MSi PC, Windows 11, 64bit, 16GB ram, CPU: Intel i7. https://soundcloud.com/user-952388172
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)
|
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 2,646
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 2,646 |
You should simply be able to delete C:/bb but you may need to change the patch in the desktop shortcuts and so on.
IIRC if you run BiaB from the D drive it's look there first for the various files, but if not you can set it up on the Preferences dialog, lower-left corner of the buttons.
You could just delete the RealTracks and Drums from C:/bb and run BiaB from it's usual place. In that case you definitely need to set the paths as above.
Jazz relative beginner, starting at a much older age than was helpful.
AVL:MXE Linux; Windows 11
BIAB2026 Audiophile, a bunch of other software.
Kawai MP6, Ui24R, Focusrite Saffire Pro40 and Scarletts
.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 20,494
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 20,494 |
Mike,
As I said a couple of posts above, chatting to a PG Music staff member would be the easiest way. They may have some suggestions that will streamline the process.
What I would do is to download just the 2022 content from PG Music. These are .exe files and should be available on your PG Music website. If they are not there, you need to chat to PG Music about it as they may have changed their system. I think that you might also be able to use PG Music's new installation manager to download and install just 2022 RT files.
You will have received an email from PG Music when you bought the Ultraplus Pak giving you some download instructions. Have you checked that out? PG Music always provide download options for Ultraplus Pak Hard drive purchases so people can play with the software while they wait for their drive.
The other alternative is to copy files from your hard drive. That said, though, the files cover all years and I'm not sure that there is an easy to to identify this year's RTs/RDs.
This is where talking to a PG Music rep. can help.
I hope this provides some useful information,
Noel
MY SONGS...Audiophile BIAB 2026
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)
|
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 842
Expert
|
|
OP
Expert
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 842 |
Mike,
As I said a couple of posts above, chatting to a PG Music staff member would be the easiest way. They may have some suggestions that will streamline the process.
What I would do is to download just the 2022 content from PG Music. These are .exe files and should be available on your PG Music website. If they are not there, you need to chat to PG Music about it as they may have changed their system. I think that you might also be able to use PG Music's new installation manager to download and install just 2022 RT files.
You will have received an email from PG Music when you bought the Ultraplus Pak giving you some download instructions. Have you checked that out? PG Music always provide download options for Ultraplus Pak Hard drive purchases so people can play with the software while they wait for their drive.
The other alternative is to copy files from your hard drive. That said, though, the files cover all years and I'm not sure that there is an easy to to identify this year's RTs/RDs.
This is where talking to a PG Music rep. can help.
I hope this provides some useful information,
Noel Thanks so much Noel. You've been very helpful. It probably wasn't the smartest idea to attempt the installation on a weekend when PG Music is not open. I will "chat" with them tomorrow to see what suggestions they have. If worse comes to worst, I guess I can delete everything and then install the whole program (and RTs and RDs) on my D drive. I looked at PG's installation manager today as an option but it seems weird to download over 120gb from the other side of the world when I've got all the the files sitting on my desk. I will mark the issues as 'resolved' when it is. Thanks again, Mike
Last edited by mkg50 (Mike G); 01/17/22 01:02 AM.
Mike Garry BIAB 2025/RealBand (5), UltraPak, Kontakt, EZmix, Ozone 9 Elements, Audacity, MSi PC, Windows 11, 64bit, 16GB ram, CPU: Intel i7. https://soundcloud.com/user-952388172
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)
|
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 7,729
PG Music Staff
|
|
PG Music Staff
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 7,729 |
There doesn't seem to be an option to install to D drive. I don't understand what you mean by this. You can install the new RealTracks (e.g. realtracks376-380.exe etc.) to your D: drive. Just enter D:\bb as your Band-in-a-Box folder, RealTracks folder location, and Drums folder location. You want everything on D:\bb correct, or do I misunderstand?
Andrew
PG Music Inc.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)
|
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 842
Expert
|
|
OP
Expert
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 842 |
There doesn't seem to be an option to install to D drive. I don't understand what you mean by this. You can install the new RealTracks (e.g. realtracks376-380.exe etc.) to your D: drive. Just enter D:\bb as your Band-in-a-Box folder, RealTracks folder location, and Drums folder location. You want everything on D:\bb correct, or do I misunderstand? I tried to do a custom install (option 4) of the RTs and RDs and I got a message telling me there’s not enough room (it’s obvious from the amount of available gigabytes quoted in the message that it wants to install the RTs and RDs to C drive and there was no option change this). I have since spoken (Live Chat) to Support and consequently installed the whole program to D drive. After installation, RealBand, which I mostly use, was stuttering and distorted on a file that played perfectly before installation. The problem seemed to be related to the fact that there were no presets in PG DX effects. When I removed the PG effects from the various tracks, playback was better. Support also suggested I delete realband.ini and RB.CFG from the RB folder. This also seemed to help. Another concern is the CPU meter reading in RB: if I try to generate a RT the meter goes through the roof (99-100%) as soon as I open the dialogue box - but the generation is successful. Any suggestions? Thanks Mike
Mike Garry BIAB 2025/RealBand (5), UltraPak, Kontakt, EZmix, Ozone 9 Elements, Audacity, MSi PC, Windows 11, 64bit, 16GB ram, CPU: Intel i7. https://soundcloud.com/user-952388172
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)
|
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 7,729
PG Music Staff
|
|
PG Music Staff
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 7,729 |
I tried to do a custom install (option 4) of the RTs and RDs and I got a message telling me there’s not enough room (it's obvious from the amount of available gigabytes quoted in the message that it wants to install the RTs and RDs to C drive and there was no option change this).
Thanks for clarifying. I tested this, and the issue is that the components screen of the installer wizard appears before you choose your installation folders. You can ignore the warning, proceed to the next screen and choose your install location. We will fix this as it is confusing. After installation, RealBand, which I mostly use, was stuttering and distorted on a file that played perfectly before installation.
The problem seemed to be related to the fact that there were no presets in PG DX effects. When I removed the PG effects from the various tracks, playback was better. Support also suggested I delete realband.ini and RB.CFG from the RB folder. This also seemed to help.
Another concern is the CPU meter reading in RB: if I try to generate a RT the meter goes through the roof (99-100%) as soon as I open the dialogue box - but the generation is successful.
Any suggestions? The presets wouldn't have anything to do with stuttering. If the presets weren't installed by the hard drive installer, either the PG DX effects component was not selected, or it is an older hard drive that pre-dates the Jan 2021 PG effects update. Either way, you can install the current effects via any newer BB installer. For the high CPU usage, I have also noticed that the RealBand CPU monitor registers 97% CPU usage when choosing a RealTrack on my system, even though my actual CPU usage is not that high. I'm not sure of the reason for this, but it is not accurate in that case. I would run the Windows task manager and click on the performance tab - CPU to get a more accurate picture. So I don't think that would be the source of your stuttering either.
Andrew
PG Music Inc.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Update to Build 10 of RealBand® 2026 for Windows®!
If you're already using RealBand 2026 for Windows, download build 10 to get all the latest additions and enhancements.
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® users: Build 904 now available!
If you're already using Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®, make sure to grab the latest update! Build 904 is now available for download and includes the newest additions and enhancements from our team.
Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® users: Build 1237 is now available!
Already a Band-in-a-Box 2026 for Windows user? Stay up to date and download the build 1237 to get all the latest additions and enhancements.
PowerTracks Pro 2026 for Windows is Here!
PowerTracks 2026 is here—bringing powerful new enhancements designed to make your production workflow faster, smoother, and more intuitive than ever.
The enhanced Mixer now shows Track Type and Instrument icons for instant track recognition, while a new grid option simplifies editing views. Non-floating windows adopt a modern title bar style, replacing the legacy blue bar.
The Master Volume is now applied at the end of the audio chain for consistent levels and full-signal master effects.
Tablature now includes a “Save bends when saving XML” option for improved compatibility with PG Music tools. Plus, you can instantly match all track heights with a simple Ctrl-release after resizing, and Add2 chords from MGU/SGU files are now fully supported... and more!
Get started today—first-time packages start at just $49.
Already using PowerTracks Pro Audio? Upgrade for as little as $29 and enjoy the latest improvements!
Order now!
Band-in-a-Box 2026 for Windows Special Offers End Tomorrow (January 15th, 2026) at 11:59 PM PST!
Time really is running out! Save up to 50% on Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® upgrades and receive a FREE Bonus PAK—only when you order by 11:59 PM PST on Thursday, January 15, 2026!
We've added many major new features and new content in a redesigned Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®!
Version 2026 introduces a modernized GUI redesign across the program, with updated toolbars, refreshed windows, smoother workflows, and a new Dark Mode option. There’s also a new side toolbar for quicker access to commonly used windows, and the new Multi-View feature lets you arrange multiple windows as layered panels without overlap, making it easier to customize your workspace.
Another exciting new addition is the new AI-Notes feature, which can transcribe polyphonic audio into MIDI. You can view the results in notation or play them back as MIDI, and choose whether to process an entire track or focus on specific parts like drums, bass, guitars/piano, or vocals. There's over 100 new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®.
There's an amazing collection of new content too, including 202 RealTracks, new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two RealDrums Stems sets, XPro Styles PAK 10, Xtra Styles PAK 21, and much more!
Upgrade your Band-in-a-Box for Windows to save up to 50% on most Band-in-a-Box® 2026 upgrade packages!
Plus, when you order your Band-in-a-Box® 2026 upgrade during our special, you'll receive a Free Bonus PAK of exciting new add-ons.
If you need any help deciding which package is the best option for you, just let us know. We are here to help!
Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® Special Offers Extended Until January 15, 2026!
Good news! You still have time to upgrade to the latest version of Band-in-a-Box® for Windows® and save. Our Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® special now runs through January 15, 2025!
We've packed Band-in-a-Box® 2026 with major new features, enhancements, and an incredible lineup of new content! The program now sports a sleek, modern GUI redesign across the entire interface, including updated toolbars, refreshed windows, smoother workflows, a new dark mode option, and more. The brand-new side toolbar provides quicker access to key windows, while the new Multi-View feature lets you arrange multiple windows as layered panels without overlap, creating a flexible, clutter-free workspace. We have an amazing new “AI-Notes” feature. This transcribes polyphonic audio into MIDI so you can view it in notation or play it back as MIDI. You can process an entire track (all pitched instruments and drums) or focus on individual parts like drums, bass, guitars/piano, or vocals. There's an amazing collection of new content too, including 202 RealTracks, new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two RealDrums Stems sets, XPro Styles PAK 10, Xtra Styles PAK 21, and much more!
There are over 100 new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®.
When you order purchase Band-in-a-Box® 2026 before 11:59 PM PST on January 15th, you'll also receive a Free Bonus PAK packed with exciting new add-ons.
Upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® today! Check out the Band-in-a-Box® packages page for all the purchase options available.
Happy New Year!
Thank you for being part of the Band-in-a-Box® community.
Wishing you and yours a very happy 2026—Happy New Year from all of us at PG Music!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forums57
Topics86,085
Posts799,928
Members40,030
| |
Most Online44,367
Mar 4th, 2026
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dansk
Deutsch - Windows
Español
Français - Windows
Italiano - Windows
Nederlands
Polski
Português
Svenskt
русский
Japanese
Simplified Chinese
Traditional Chinese
Korean