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Count In Wont Stick #697892 01/12/22 02:11 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 96 Australia soulagent OP Enthusiast
OP soulagent Enthusiast Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 96 Australia	Gday All Sorry to be a pain, as I have asked before. I want to change my count in to 1 2 123 because I need 4 to be the first chord in bar 1. I cant. It will not change from 12 1234. Any Ideas?? I have reset to factory. No change. cheers

Re: Count In Wont Stick soulagent #697927 01/12/22 04:20 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 21,093 Melbourne, Australia	Quote: I want to change my count in to 1 2 123 because I need 4 to be the first chord in bar 1. Hmmm, I'm not so sure about the count-in ever being able to do that. Well, at least I have never tried this. Could you try making the first bar one beat long (using function key <F5>) and then return to 4 beats on the following bar? Perhaps not. I just tried it and it is quite confusing. BIAB & RB2026 Win.(Audiophile), Windows 10 Pro & Windows 11, Cakewalk Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Session Keys Grand S & Electric R, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M, Pioneer Active Monitors.

Re: Count In Wont Stick soulagent #697929 01/12/22 04:24 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 21,093 Melbourne, Australia	OK, here's another way that might work: Make the first 2 beats a Rest (C.), then enter a comma before the chord on the RHS cell (,C). You will get the first note playing on beat 4 and then the song continues: Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) 2022-01-13_13-23-16.jpg (58.74 KB, 149 downloads) BIAB & RB2026 Win.(Audiophile), Windows 10 Pro & Windows 11, Cakewalk Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Session Keys Grand S & Electric R, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M, Pioneer Active Monitors.

Re: Count In Wont Stick AudioTrack #698432 01/14/22 04:01 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP soulagent Enthusiast Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 96 Australia	Does not work. they must fix the count in. It is there. Why does it not work. you should be able to count in 12 123 on the 2 x count in bars then start with 4 on the first beat of bar one. Millions of songs require this !!

Re: Count In Wont Stick soulagent #698434 01/14/22 04:03 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Ember - PG Music PG Music Staff Joined: Jun 2017 Posts: 3,007 BC	Are you using RealDrums or MIDI Drums, by chance? Cheers, Ember

Re: Count In Wont Stick soulagent #698435 01/14/22 04:05 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 21,093 Melbourne, Australia	Originally Posted By: soulagent you should be able to count in 12 123 on the 2 x count in bars then start with 4 on the first beat of bar one. Millions of songs require this !! I don't recall a count-in where the 4th beat of the count-in occurred on the 1st beat of the first bar. But from your description, they obviously exist. Could you name a small number of these songs so I can listen and get an idea? BIAB & RB2026 Win.(Audiophile), Windows 10 Pro & Windows 11, Cakewalk Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Session Keys Grand S & Electric R, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M, Pioneer Active Monitors.

Re: Count In Wont Stick Ember - PG Music #698657 01/15/22 02:48 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP soulagent Enthusiast Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 96 Australia	Real Drums.

Re: Count In Wont Stick AudioTrack #698659 01/15/22 02:52 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP soulagent Enthusiast Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 96 Australia	I am trying to do an arrangement of Jailhouse Rock by Elvis Presley. Listen to the intro. 12 123 D#,E then 2 snare beats . Repeated. The D# is the 4th count of the count in and the Ist beat of bar 1. regards

Re: Count In Wont Stick soulagent #698679 01/15/22 04:31 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Pipeline Veteran P Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 7,954	Do you just want to mute the 4th click ? Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) BB22-Beat-4-Off.gif (83.39 KB, 104 downloads)

Re: Count In Wont Stick soulagent #698691 01/15/22 06:00 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 21,093 Melbourne, Australia	Originally Posted By: soulagent I am trying to do an arrangement of Jailhouse Rock by Elvis Presley. Listen to the intro. 12 123 D#,E then 2 snare beats . Repeated. The D# is the 4th count of the count in and the Ist beat of bar 1. regards With respect, I think you may be interpreting the count-in incorrectly. The very first note of the intro to Jailhouse Rock is on beat 4, not beat 1. The D# is beat 4. The E is the first beat of the next bar. This is my interpretation of how I hear the count in: Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) 2022-01-16_14-58-13.jpg (84.12 KB, 98 downloads) BIAB & RB2026 Win.(Audiophile), Windows 10 Pro & Windows 11, Cakewalk Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Session Keys Grand S & Electric R, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M, Pioneer Active Monitors.

Re: Count In Wont Stick AudioTrack #698741 01/16/22 02:48 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 21,093 Melbourne, Australia	Separately, maybe I've missed something and I would be keen on anyone else's comments about a count-in where the 4th beat of the count-in occurs on the 1st beat of the first bar, but I still think the above answer is actually correct. BIAB & RB2026 Win.(Audiophile), Windows 10 Pro & Windows 11, Cakewalk Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Session Keys Grand S & Electric R, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M, Pioneer Active Monitors.

Re: Count In Wont Stick AudioTrack #698746 01/16/22 03:25 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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DrDan Veteran Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,950 Wauconda	Originally Posted By: AudioTrack Separately, maybe I've missed something and I would be keen on anyone else's comments about a count-in where the 4th beat of the count-in occurs on the 1st beat of the first bar, but I still think the above answer is actually correct. I don't understnad the "4th beat of the count-in occurs on the 1st beat of the first bar" . What you have would work for me but perhaps Jerry and Mike had that pickup note on an eight note, the "and" following beat 4. Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) Capture.JPG (74.38 KB, 97 downloads) Retired to Make Music - No Plan B My SoundCloud Preview My Current Project .

Re: Count In Wont Stick DrDan #698748 01/16/22 03:30 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 21,093 Melbourne, Australia	Originally Posted By: MusicStudent Originally Posted By: AudioTrack Separately, maybe I've missed something and I would be keen on anyone else's comments about a count-in where the 4th beat of the count-in occurs on the 1st beat of the first bar, but I still think the above answer is actually correct. I don't understand the "4th beat of the count-in occurs on the 1st beat of the first bar" . What you have would work for me but perhaps Jerry and Mike had that pickup note on an eight note, the "and" following beat 4. Thanks for weighing in Dan. In the attachment you have, the pickup note is actually on the 'and' of the preceding beat to the last beat of the intro. (Well, technically it's shown as a 2 beat intro, so it's on the 'and' of the first beat - I could discuss the quaver rest followed by the dotted crotchets - but I'm really not trying to confuse this any more though ) BIAB & RB2026 Win.(Audiophile), Windows 10 Pro & Windows 11, Cakewalk Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Session Keys Grand S & Electric R, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M, Pioneer Active Monitors.

Re: Count In Wont Stick soulagent #698752 01/16/22 03:45 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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DrDan Veteran Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,950 Wauconda	??, be gentle remember I am a guitar player. Here is my count in... Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) Capture.JPG (14.11 KB, 89 downloads) Retired to Make Music - No Plan B My SoundCloud Preview My Current Project .

Re: Count In Wont Stick DrDan #698763 01/16/22 04:14 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 21,093 Melbourne, Australia	Originally Posted By: MusicStudent ??, be gentle remember I am a guitar player. Here is my count in... Yep, that's perfect. BIAB & RB2026 Win.(Audiophile), Windows 10 Pro & Windows 11, Cakewalk Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Session Keys Grand S & Electric R, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M, Pioneer Active Monitors.

Re: Count In Wont Stick DrDan #698765 01/16/22 04:18 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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MarioD Veteran Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 24,696 Hamlin NY	Originally Posted By: MusicStudent ??, be gentle remember I am a guitar player. Here is my count in... Oh my God Dan what are those dots on that page OK, a random thought; Why does toilet paper need a commercial? Who's not buying it? 64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware

Re: Count In Wont Stick soulagent #698775 01/16/22 05:12 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Gordon Scott Veteran Joined: Jan 2015 Posts: 2,662 Hampshire, UK	To me, the choice of Jailhouse Rock definitely indicates that that the poster has misunderstood pick-up/anacrucis notes. The anacrucis is on (the) and the main beats of the song are on (WA)rder (PA)rty (CO)unty (JA)il, precisely where one would expect them in a 4/4. That takes me back many years to my mobile disco days. I quite often used to segway from Jailhouse Rock into 10cc's Rubber Bullets, with the sirens introducing the latter coming in over the tail end of the former. Last edited by Gordon Scott; 01/16/22 05:12 AM. Jazz relative beginner, starting at a much older age than was helpful. AVL:MXE Linux; Windows 11 BIAB2026 Audiophile, a bunch of other software. Kawai MP6, Ui24R, Focusrite Saffire Pro40 and Scarletts .

Re: Count In Wont Stick Gordon Scott #698841 01/16/22 09:53 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 21,093 Melbourne, Australia	Originally Posted By: Gordon Scott To me, the choice of Jailhouse Rock definitely indicates that that the poster has misunderstood pick-up/anacrucis notes. The anacrucis is on (the) and the main beats of the song are on (WA)rder (PA)rty (CO)unty (JA)il, precisely where one would expect them in a 4/4. Yep, I definitely agree. The very first ('the') is unstressed with the emphasis on (WA)rden in the first beat of the bar (the downbeat). BIAB & RB2026 Win.(Audiophile), Windows 10 Pro & Windows 11, Cakewalk Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Session Keys Grand S & Electric R, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M, Pioneer Active Monitors.

Re: Count In Wont Stick soulagent #698857 01/16/22 10:45 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP soulagent Enthusiast Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 96 Australia	OK thank you Audiotrak. Essentially I meant the same as you say. Putting it into practice is the problem. It is all well and good to understand the theory but a performer like me has to sing and play it. I can do it blindfolded by myself or with a band, but syncing the count in so it works with BIAB is the problem. Do i have to put it in with notation as you have then? Once again thank you for your help cheers Last edited by soulagent; 01/16/22 11:11 AM.

Re: Count In Wont Stick DrDan #698865 01/16/22 11:04 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP soulagent Enthusiast Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 96 Australia	Thats great my friend and thanks. Now make it work in BIAB cheers

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