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Watched each of them. OK, I'm officially old now.
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I totally agree with Matt and get fed up with people
who claim to represent everyone They don’t. They claim to represent modern, inventive young people vs. nostalgic, stuck-in-the-past old folks. It is poetically bizarre to see such a post reposted at 10 year intervals – some users replying now replied then! I wonder who will be having this discussion in 2032? Perhaps by then BIAB will have split into two different versions, “BIAB Classic” and “BIAB Modern”, as has been suggested.
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blochead..rofl.
sbmix.
listened to those you tube vids.
how to do in realband.
1. isolate drum samples you want by going to end of
real drums in bb dir. (copy out DONT CHANGE) OR
free one shots from royalty free sites on the net OR
i have a ton of computer music mag drum/bass samples
etc and other sounds on cm mag dvd.
2. in rb arrange samples in the time line on different traks. OR you can use a sample player plug in loaded
in rb to play the samples.
3. get a number good singers in and record them over the beats/whatever samples bed you recorded.
above is a rough production outline. and depends on the song. you could also load royalty free loops and then
record the singers..then haveing finished recording the singers ....work finessing the bed traks/additions etc.
the above could be done in any daw. no biggie.
i just dont see what the big deal is.
all the tools are in bb and rb you need possibly
augmented by freely available low cost/free sample libraries. irrespective ...those you tube songs you linked to were lots of work. of that i'm sure...its the nature of doing songs.
best
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Those are mostly just straight drum and bass with processed vocals. One oddity I notice from two and from a couple you've posted in the past is the presence of that same arpegiated ping-pong synthesiser. That's at least four tracks that have that same sound. I have to be honest, though, and say that I can only watch/listen to this stuff for a minute or two before I get bored. I guess as I get older my patience wears thinner. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCIHPdx1OAs
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I find threads like this very interesting. Things like quarter tones, drum stems sans bleeding, contemporary drum patterns, changing synth sounds during a song, etc have been available in MIDI for years.
IMHO RTs are a great tool but not necessarily the only tool you should rely on for every task. YMMV
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I want to thank Swingbabymix for posting samples of the kind of music he or she wants to make. That's very helpful.
What's old is new again. I heard (and see) a strong influence of the 1980s in those videos. Post-disco plus bubble gum, but very well produced. The first one had some songwriting skill. The only thing not up-to-date is the absence of abundant major seconds in the melody.
I don't think BIAB is the way I would want to try to produce songs like that even if I did find drums and bass that fit; I think loops in a DAW might be the key. But I'm too busy breaking new ground in contemporary Brazilian jazz to spend any time on this.
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No need to make a beatbox out of BIAB. There are gazillion of loop / synth things and drum machines available within samplers/ synths like Kontakt/Komplete, Halion and many others that you can use as a plugin(s) within BIAB and feed individual midi tracks or chord track directly to these to play along with your RT's Rds and Midi arrangement.
I value BIAB specifically for traditional performances / instruments... you know the ones people actually played. I would not mind couple of more Loop Sets and Modern midi styles, sure that is a good thing.
This is in line with "wishes", but the easiest way to get "modern" Midi lines would be a simple and universal style converter from great thousands of styles (free and paid) of Yamaha / Roland / Korg to BIAB. For it to be "User Friendly" it has to be integrated.
One other item that I stressed a few days ago that in my opinion should be there in the first place, is to have ability to easily audition and pick out individual MIDI stems from PG MIDI styles. Many style instrumental parts are very usable for making modern type music, but proper workflow is simply not there yet. Hopefully that will change.
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Banal, auto-tuned tripe masquerading as music. Age comes with perspective and discernment. That's why "youth is wasted on the young."  Regards, Old Bob
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No need to make a beatbox out of BIAB.
One other item that I stressed a few days ago that in my opinion should be there in the first place, is to have ability to easily audition and pick out individual MIDI stems from PG MIDI styles. Many style instrumental parts are very usable for making modern type music, but proper workflow is simply not there yet. Hopefully that will change. +++1
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We have no idea if Swingbabymix is young. And no good can come from denigrating someone’s choice in music. Describing, yes, that’s fair.
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Banal, auto-tuned tripe masquerading as music. I feel like that about it, too, but it's what sbmix wants. OK, that's fine, each to their own. What I find rather anachronistic puzzling is that he/she/other seems to want to produce computer-generated-sounding music froma program that, on the whole, is trying to make computer-generated music sound more more like it was played by musicians. More than that, though; the computer-generated-sounding music is mostly made with quantisation that's generally more easily done in a DAW, with loops whether found or played, with Fx and processing that a DAW is arguably better at ... reverse sounds seem very popular. Getting a tight beat like those videos is pretty easy in BiaB, certainly with MIDI. Interesting bass should be fairly easy ditto, though slap-bass loops are probably easier. The vocals is his/her/others stated interest, so presumably recording that is fine. The challenge is getting from there to an end result. As justanoldmuso says: "those you tube songs you linked to were lots of work. of that i'm sure...its the nature of doing songs."
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We have no idea if Swingbabymix is young. And no good can come from denigrating someone’s choice in music. Describing, yes, that’s fair. I apologize for breaching "Matt's Rules Of Etiquette", but I thought I was describing his/her/they/them's choice in music. "Banal, auto-tuned tripe masquerading as music."
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We have no idea if Swingbabymix is young. He said he is 40. I guess he could be 41 now. I would consider this kind of thing way off topic but for the fact that he keeps bringing up the youth versus age thing.
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BIAB's various styles are mainly displayed through guitar and piano.
In fact, the songs that many young people like in modern times have very few guitars. Most are electronic instruments instead of guitars.
BIAB developers should take note of this and react quickly.
I'm not saying it's bad right now, I just hope it's better.
What do you think?
It is great for us to have specific examples of songs. These should be added to the style wishlist area as well. Just to point out, that you can already do a song like Shape of You (one of the examples) in Band-in-a-Box. I just found a style and did the entire song right now in less than a minute. Here's how.. 1. Open StylePicker, type Shape of You in the Song Titles field and press Enter. 2. Audition the first few styles, chose "SELEKT.STY 3. Typed in the four chords into the first two bars of the song C#m F#m A B. 4. Since the song is just a 4 chord loop, you can just repeat chords (you can use hotkeys like "k" (Quick Copy). Adjusted tempo. Done
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"Jazz music is of the devil" "Blues is of the devil" "Rock n Roll music is of the devil"...."Roll over Beethoven and tell Tchaikovsky the news......I've got no kick against modern jazz unless they try to play it too darn fast."
There are easy things that can be done with Biab to allow current/modern music styles. To be able to change Loops at any bar, drag n drop loops from a Loop picker into the timeline of Audio Edit and fitting with the Acid info, have Midi Loops that will fit to the chord. As said before MIDISuperTracks with current instruments and beats with a Synth. You need to get a younger audience coming to Biab, maybe when the BBPlugin gets sorted out the Standalone BBPlugin would be the way so they don't do their head in trying to work out Biab.
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No problem, I looked it up in my Wheeldex. Anyway. I admire your patience here and I understand and respect why you might disapprove of some of what I've said. But it's hard to get things like this out of my head when I see it being repeated again and again: If you don’t change or keep up with the times, you can easily be eliminated. I found that many people who use BAND IN A BOX are middle-aged and elderly people. Maybe this is the positioning of BAND IN A BOX, right? Man, that kind of thing would get your [*****] hauled into HR in any modern office.
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