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Well, this kinda already happens here when regular forum users reply to folks asking about a bug. You're right that a developer run system would be best but if that isn't possible maybe we can hack something together that would at least cover the more serious issues?

Real example:

I reported a Mac problem importing ABC files. I was told by PG staff that it was reproduced and forwarded to development as a bug.

Now, if I see someone else asking about this, I can say, oh that's a known bug and they're working on it. I think I already did, at least once.

But what else can I say? I'm still just waiting, waiting, waiting, and I have no idea what the status is, or if this will even be fixed at all – maybe they're planning to withdraw the feature in the next release. Does anyone outside PG know what's up with that? Probably not.

I'm just saying any kind of bug tracking setup would need some kind of buy-in from PG.

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I could make up a database on a website www.biabbugs.com that would be users driven. I have done this before with searchable UserTracks database.
I just lack the enthusiasm these days from too many frustrating years trying to improve BB, RB, BBvst, it has taken it's toll on me.
Other Company's testing and development has been a joy but for some reason PG is a bit of a brick wall with near zero engagement. I hear this also from so many users contacting me.
All we try to do is make it better, that's it. We are not trying to bring it down, attack it, destroy it.
There needs to be a quantum leap and soon. Here we are in January again still fixing things.
HELLO PG, WE LOVE YOU, WE LOVE THE END RESULT OF BIAB, BUT PLEASE, LISTEN. BLESSED IS HE WHO HEARS AND ACTS.

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From my point of view I think BiaB is based on very old technology and to keep the customer base happy by trying to upgrade have applied band-aid, upon band-aid upon band-aid. They have had some great ideas like the VST, utility tracks, micro chords (I hate their nomenclature), etc that were poorly executed. Like many other software companies have had to do I think it is time for a complete rewrite.

Note that I am not a PGM hater and in fact virtually all of my songs start in BiaB. It is a good product but a product that I get out of as soon as I have my chord structure down. I would like to do more in BiaB but find it very hard to do so because of the poorly executed add-ons. YMMV


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What I saw in a vision is the BBPlugin going ahead in leaps n bounds when it started having the functions natively in the VST rather than calling on the old technology bbw4 (Biab) in the background, this giving it instant Gen/Play without creating up wav files, more than 255 bars, following any tempo decimal map of the DAW, any time signature....
Then I saw it having editable tracks for the RT audio and the RealChart/midi.
This way the C:\bb\BBPlugin\Files\Band-in-a-Box DAW Plugin Standalone.exe developed into a new Biab app that was simple to use, super quick, quicker than Biab, without all the million and one features of the current, this was then released at the same time on Win & Mac because of the cross platform programming language Adar uses.

The current Delphi Biab app is likely to remain how it is for a fair while, BUT look out for the Band-in-a-Box DAW Plugin Standalone.exe !!!

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