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Can't Talk To You #699060 01/17/22 10:46 AM User Showcase
Joined: Jun 2021 Posts: 1,689 Mark Hayes OP Expert
OP Mark Hayes Expert Joined: Jun 2021 Posts: 1,689	Can't Talk To You When I make a new connection Will I take a cruel rejection? If I call your home You won’t touch the phone I am all alone Can’t talk to you, no no no no How I wish that we were speaking Like a fish my eyes are leaking With a word or two We can make it through So I cry for you All that I need is some real communication Then I will be freed from this horrible frustration If I knew you’d get the signal I would make your iPhone jiggle But it goes to mail Digital jail Once again I wail This is some silly stuff here. It evolved out of an earlier discussion about “reimagining” existing songs using basic compositional tricks. This is NOT “You Won’t See Me”, by Lennon/McCartney. Synthetic singers by Emvoice and EastWest RealTrack: ~522:Guitar, Acoustic, Fingerpicking Ev 120 NOTE 1/20/22: Replaced original track and updated link. Hopefully fixed the audio masking problems. Last edited by Mark Hayes; 01/20/22 12:51 PM.

Re: Can't Talk To You Mark Hayes #699087 01/17/22 01:11 PM User Showcase
Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,373 Southeast USA bloc-head Expert
bloc-head Expert Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,373 Southeast USA	Another strange and wonderful song from the Master of Strange & Wonderful. Way cool Mark. Bandcamp Soundcloud Win-11; BiaB-2025 Audiophile Cakewalk; Melodyne-5; Scaler 2; NI Komplete: Focusrite Scarlett 18i20

Re: Can't Talk To You bloc-head #699094 01/17/22 01:48 PM User Showcase
Joined: Jun 2021 Posts: 1,689 Mark Hayes OP Expert
OP Mark Hayes Expert Joined: Jun 2021 Posts: 1,689	Originally Posted By: bloc-head Another strange and wonderful song from the Master of Strange & Wonderful. Way cool Mark. Thanks! I like the title, it sounds like a magician. I do try to keep things in balance, though. No more than two weird ones in a row, then I have to take a timeout and try to do something normal.

Re: Can't Talk To You Mark Hayes #699099 01/17/22 02:21 PM User Showcase
Joined: Apr 2016 Posts: 7,014 Cooran Queensland Australia rayc Veteran
rayc Veteran Joined: Apr 2016 Posts: 7,014 Cooran Queensland Australia	The synth voice works pretty well...having a solid melody and lyrics makes a difference. The slightly stranger bvox reinforces the relative normality of the main. Cool. Cheers rayc "What's so funny about peace, love & understanding?" - N.Lowe

Re: Can't Talk To You rayc #699120 01/17/22 03:30 PM User Showcase
Joined: Jun 2021 Posts: 1,689 Mark Hayes OP Expert
OP Mark Hayes Expert Joined: Jun 2021 Posts: 1,689	Originally Posted By: rayc The synth voice works pretty well...having a solid melody and lyrics makes a difference. The slightly stranger bvox reinforces the relative normality of the main. Cool. That's a trick to remember: the more weird makes the less weird seem normal. Thanks! =8^)

Re: Can't Talk To You Mark Hayes #699145 01/17/22 06:44 PM User Showcase
Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 7,670 Sacramento, California dcuny Veteran
dcuny Veteran Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 7,670 Sacramento, California	I was thinking "This sounds fairly normal..." And the it got to the chorus. Yes, “You Won’t See Me” sprung to mind immediately. Fun listen. -- David Cuny My virtual singer development blog Vocal control, you say. Never heard of it. Is that some kind of ProTools thing?

Re: Can't Talk To You dcuny #699227 01/18/22 07:05 AM User Showcase
Joined: Jun 2021 Posts: 1,689 Mark Hayes OP Expert
OP Mark Hayes Expert Joined: Jun 2021 Posts: 1,689	Originally Posted By: dcuny I was thinking "This sounds fairly normal..." And then it got to the chorus. Yes, “You Won’t See Me” sprung to mind immediately. Fun listen. Thanks, it was a fun do! I considered making my protagonist the self-important misogynistic jerk that young Paul McCartney was back then, but I was afraid it would be taken as me being the jerk. Here's Wikipedia's "behind the scenes" story: "You Won't See Me" is about a crisis in McCartney's relationship with his then girlfriend, Jane Asher. Four years younger than McCartney, Asher was approaching twenty and no longer willing to adhere to his wish that she stay at home and put his interests first. In late 1965, while the Beatles were recording the album "Rubber Soul" in London, she had accepted an offer to appear in a stage production at the Bristol Old Vic theatre. After a heated argument, the couple had briefly ended the relationship. When he then attempted to telephone her in Bristol, Asher rejected him by not returning his calls. McCartney later said that it was "shattering to be without her". Poor guy! Same attitude he expressed to the same woman in the grotesquely mistitled "We Can Work It Out". Here's a photo of her doing that which so upset the macho moptop. PS – Paul wrote the song in the basement of her parents' house, where he was living at the time. Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) Jane_Asher_Bristol_Old_Vic_US_tour_1967.JPG (181.73 KB, 109 downloads) Last edited by Mark Hayes; 01/18/22 07:09 AM.

Re: Can't Talk To You Mark Hayes #699401 01/18/22 09:43 PM User Showcase
Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,604 Maryland TuneMonger Veteran
TuneMonger Veteran Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,604 Maryland	Oddly enough I didn't get You Won't See Me from this, but the chorus brought Flower Duet by Delibes to my mind. I liked it, it was very relaxing to me. I guess I'm easy to fool, the main vocal worked fine for me. The "more weird makes the less weird seem normal" definitely worked on me. Good job all the way around! Windows 11, Intel Core I5 10400, 16 gig ram, Scarlett 2i2, Sony Acid Music Studio 10, BIAB 2020 UltraPlus Pak

Re: Can't Talk To You Mark Hayes #699408 01/18/22 11:25 PM User Showcase
Joined: Apr 2016 Posts: 7,014 Cooran Queensland Australia rayc Veteran
rayc Veteran Joined: Apr 2016 Posts: 7,014 Cooran Queensland Australia	Originally Posted By: Mark Hayes Originally Posted By: dcuny I was thinking "This sounds fairly normal..." And then it got to the chorus. Yes, “You Won’t See Me” sprung to mind immediately. Fun listen. Thanks, it was a fun do! I considered making my protagonist the self-important misogynistic jerk that young Paul McCartney was back then, but I was afraid it would be taken as me being the jerk. Here's Wikipedia's "behind the scenes" story: "You Won't See Me" is about a crisis in McCartney's relationship with his then girlfriend, Jane Asher. Four years younger than McCartney, Asher was approaching twenty and no longer willing to adhere to his wish that she stay at home and put his interests first. In late 1965, while the Beatles were recording the album "Rubber Soul" in London, she had accepted an offer to appear in a stage production at the Bristol Old Vic theatre. After a heated argument, the couple had briefly ended the relationship. When he then attempted to telephone her in Bristol, Asher rejected him by not returning his calls. McCartney later said that it was "shattering to be without her". Poor guy! Same attitude he expressed to the same woman in the grotesquely mistitled "We Can Work It Out". Here's a photo of her doing that which so upset the macho moptop. PS – Paul wrote the song in the basement of her parents' house, where he was living at the time. EXCELLENT, more fuel for my Peyawl loathing fire. I can't abide Mr. Mawkish. Cheers rayc "What's so funny about peace, love & understanding?" - N.Lowe

Re: Can't Talk To You bloc-head #699439 01/19/22 03:28 AM User Showcase
Joined: May 2019 Posts: 4,505 Dallas, PA, USA BabuMusic Veteran
BabuMusic Veteran Joined: May 2019 Posts: 4,505 Dallas, PA, USA	Originally Posted By: bloc-head Another strange and wonderful song from the Master of Strange & Wonderful. Way cool Mark. Yeah, that's perfect. Master of Strange & Wonderful. There is something hauntingly engaging in these AI voices, Mark. Very cool. Enjoy whatever happens! marty YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@babumusic51 SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/marty-straub Band in a Box, Reaper, Cakewalk, Ozone 11

Re: Can't Talk To You Mark Hayes #699471 01/19/22 05:52 AM User Showcase
Joined: Sep 2016 Posts: 2,497 Netherlands, Haarlem Birchwood Veteran
Birchwood Veteran Joined: Sep 2016 Posts: 2,497 Netherlands, Haarlem	Hello Mark, I was amazed how bright your song is. The guitar, the vocals and that haunting voice at the back. What a wonderful song this is! Intriguing and fascinating. How do you come to this compositions? As I said earlier, I'm not exactly a fan of this style, but I like what you do. Brilliant! Hans Hans Berkhout (Birchwood) https://soundcloud.com/user-296497130

Re: Can't Talk To You Birchwood #699478 01/19/22 06:09 AM User Showcase
Joined: Jun 2021 Posts: 1,689 Mark Hayes OP Expert
OP Mark Hayes Expert Joined: Jun 2021 Posts: 1,689	Originally Posted By: Birchwood I was amazed how bright your song is. The guitar, the vocals and that haunting voice at the back. What a wonderful song this is! Intriguing and fascinating. How do you come to this compositions? As I said earlier, I'm not exactly a fan of this style, but I like what you do. Brilliant! Hi, Hans, and thanks! How did I come to this composition? I stole it from Paul McCartney. But then I "music laundered" it in Logic and BIAB by inverting the pitches, jazzing up the chords, and changing the words, so the law can't touch me. I probably shouldn't do this, but if you don't know it, here's the original. You can hear that while it's not the same song, it's the same song. The Beatles "You Won't See Me" on YouTube Last edited by Mark Hayes; 01/19/22 06:09 AM.

Re: Can't Talk To You rayc #699481 01/19/22 06:26 AM User Showcase
Joined: Jun 2021 Posts: 1,689 Mark Hayes OP Expert
OP Mark Hayes Expert Joined: Jun 2021 Posts: 1,689	Originally Posted By: rayc EXCELLENT, more fuel for my Peyawl loathing fire. I can't abide Mr. Mawkish. Oh, come on. Sgt. Pepper is his album, but anyway. I get a kick out of how the throwaway 60's lyrics reveal his actual inner creep. It never occurred to him what he was giving away with lines like Quote: Time after time you refuse to even listen I wouldn't mind if I knew what I was missing In 2022, such concerns are easily addressed with keystroke logging software and a few AirTags.

Re: Can't Talk To You TuneMonger #699484 01/19/22 06:36 AM User Showcase
Joined: Jun 2021 Posts: 1,689 Mark Hayes OP Expert
OP Mark Hayes Expert Joined: Jun 2021 Posts: 1,689	Originally Posted By: TuneMonger Oddly enough I didn't get You Won't See Me from this, but the chorus brought Flower Duet by Delibes to my mind. I liked it, it was very relaxing to me. I guess I'm easy to fool, the main vocal worked fine for me. The "more weird makes the less weird seem normal" definitely worked on me. Good job all the way around! Thanks! I just gave "Flower Duet" a listen on YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Qx2lMaMsl8) although I had to flee when those high voices got a little too piercing. I hear what you mean. If you know YWSM and still didn't hear it here, that is great news! It means I have in fact succeeded in creating something new from something old. But trust me, it's there, and with the right software you could recover it, like the identity of the swirly-faced guy in Thailand a few years back.

Re: Can't Talk To You BabuMusic #699485 01/19/22 06:39 AM User Showcase
Joined: Jun 2021 Posts: 1,689 Mark Hayes OP Expert
OP Mark Hayes Expert Joined: Jun 2021 Posts: 1,689	Originally Posted By: BabuMusic There is something hauntingly engaging in these AI voices, Mark. Very cool. Thanks, Marty. Those are my Uncanny Valley Girls. =8^)

Re: Can't Talk To You Mark Hayes #699491 01/19/22 07:20 AM User Showcase
Joined: Oct 2021 Posts: 1,482 Versmold - GERMANY PROJECT M Expert
PROJECT M Expert Joined: Oct 2021 Posts: 1,482 Versmold - GERMANY	Hi Mark Cool song Melody and voice fit perfectly together Interesting and good Many greetings Andi ;-)

Re: Can't Talk To You PROJECT M #699514 01/19/22 09:21 AM User Showcase
Joined: Jun 2021 Posts: 1,689 Mark Hayes OP Expert
OP Mark Hayes Expert Joined: Jun 2021 Posts: 1,689	Originally Posted By: PROJECT M Cool song Melody and voice fit perfectly together Interesting and good Many greetings Many thanks, Andi. Glad this goofy thing was up your alley. =8^)

Re: Can't Talk To You Mark Hayes #699555 01/19/22 02:52 PM User Showcase
Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 7,051 Davis, CA G Greg Johnson Veteran
Greg Johnson Veteran G Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 7,051 Davis, CA	OK, now I get the You Won't See Me connection!! Music is very cool........some really nice changes and nice melody!! Take care. Greg

Re: Can't Talk To You Greg Johnson #699571 01/19/22 03:48 PM User Showcase
Joined: Jun 2021 Posts: 1,689 Mark Hayes OP Expert
OP Mark Hayes Expert Joined: Jun 2021 Posts: 1,689	Originally Posted By: Greg Johnson OK, now I get the You Won't See Me connection!! Music is very cool........some really nice changes and nice melody!! Thanks, Greg! Credit BIAB for the fancy chording. Last edited by Mark Hayes; 01/20/22 12:49 PM.

Re: Can't Talk To You Mark Hayes #699660 01/20/22 06:41 AM User Showcase
Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 4,299 Finland jannesan Veteran
jannesan Veteran Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 4,299 Finland	I like the idea of turning some existing classic artwork into your own with many new creative ideas and production, much better than doing a lame cover version. This is very fascinating post-modern pop song with interesting chords and melodical changes. I really like the harmonies and backing vocal parts. Definitely original and even futuristic music. Janne Hear My Music: Soundcloud YouTube

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