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Hi, all: I’ve been pretty absent from the board for various reasons—hoping to catch up on things over the next couple of weeks. Anyway, I haven’t really been working on much new, so decided to give this song a go. I wrote it a few years ago, but never geared up to do a full version of it because I had two main reservations about doing so: First, I knew it would be a long song, in the end running 5:30 or so. I generally don’t like going beyond 4:30 at the very most, but there’s no way around that on this song. Which is to say, there’s nothing I want to cut. I could probably save 15-20 seconds on the arrangement, but in for a penny, in for a pound. My hope is that there are enough changes in the elements to keep the ear interested, but . . . Second, the bridge. I had a very distinct idea on how I wanted that to sound, but always knew I could never pull it off. So, in this effort, I came up with the what my small talents could muster, and hope it works well enough. So, despite those reservations, here’s how it came out . . . at worst worth the effort I hope. Thanks for the listen and feedback. Here’s the song:PAPER DREAMS Here are the lyrics:Momma told me when I was young She said, Don’t ever be afraid to chase the sun You never know the heights you can go until you try And she could play and sing like angels do She taught me every note and every chord she knew She told me I could be a big star if I’d like Momma had her own dreams, too But she gave them up when Daddy asked her to She passed when I was nine But every dream she had and her ’52 Gibson guitar Well, I made them mine Swore on her soul I’d be a country star Played every high school dance and every local bar I said, I’m gonna hit the bigs like no one else Daddy said, All your hopes and schemes You know they won’t amount to more than paper dreams Well, I guess I’m gonna find out for myself And so I’ll try to chase down the sun And I’ll fly to heights no one’s gone With every breath I can breathe With every drop I can bleed I’m never giving up ‘cause I believe In these paper dreams. I met a man down on Music Row He said, I seen every wannabe here come and go You better pack it up and run back home, boy, while you can I said, You may have seen a million wannabes But you ain’t never ever seen the likes of me And, well, even if I should, I know I can’t And so I’ll try to chase down the sun And I’ll fly to heights no one’s gone With this light in my eyes And my heart on my sleeve I’ll give it all I got ‘cause I believe In these paper dreams Ain’t no luck, you gotta make your own breaks I’m gonna do everything it takes I’m gonna wake up every morning with the dawning sun Sweat the frets until I get down everything I’ve done Work the bar every night at the Patterson While writing lyrics on the back of a napkin Post my tunes to YouTube and the music sites Playing in the parks and at every open mic Knock on closing doors, sell myself and more Anything and everything it takes to score And so I’ll try to chase down the sun And I’ll fly to heights no one’s gone With every breath I can breathe With every drop I can bleed I’m never gonna stop ‘cause I believe In these paper dreams. And some day when I make it big I’m gonna head on back to the place he still lives And say, What do you think of me now Hey, what do you think of me now Hey, Dad, what do you think of me And here’s the band:
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The mandolin works a treat. Those long notes are ACE! The line "Playing in the parks and at every open mic" sounds like there's a mismatch between lead and bvox...may need to excise a word, perhaps "at", for better flow or slice and slide to get it 100%. I think it's a charming song Deej. Cool narrative, excellent vocals, terrific melody. Well done.
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A song should be as short as possible... but no shorter! And this song isn't too long. I wouldn't describe you as someone having "small talents", and this song proves the point. The arrangement is great - the mandolin is standout - but it's the vocals that sell the song, and it keeps my attention throughout the song. I like that it's Momma's guitar, and not Daddy's guitar - a nice change from expectations. At 3:50, the balance of the vocal is a bit off in an otherwise stellar mix. Love the ending! 
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Deej, every artist and aspiring artist can relate to this, at least in some way. I know I do. The writing is stellar, your narrative-style of singing/telling the story is no less so. If there's one way I would sum your writing/singing in a sentence, it would be this one: you really soar when you write about what you know - and this is what this one feels like. It's great when you can manage to write about both what YOU know and what others can relate to. In any case, I think you've hit bullseye with this one, once again - one of your best. I agree with David Cuny ... the ending is particularly beautiful. By then, I may have had a tear or two in my eye, anyway ... just maybe :-)
Just as a short comment on the story of the song: there's nothing more beautiful than to genuinely believe, no matter what, in one's (as you call them) paper dreams. Thank you for writing and expressing this in such a beautiful, moving and relatable manner.
I've listened to it twice, so far ... one more time, to see if any other comment comes to mind. In any case: well done and please keep going ... your songs are reference points for me, by this stage - to listen to them is a privilege I'm grateful for, because - amongst other things - you come up with something different and fresh, each time - without ever compromising the high quality standard which is a given with you, by now. I don't want to gush, but the world (my world, at least) would be poorer without them - so bravo.
With this, one last addendum: please, please, please, always write about what feels right to you to write about, and never doubt yourself. You soar when you do that. Well done.
P.S. I forgot to say this: that drum-like, articulated section, which starts: "I'm gonna wake up every morning with the dawning sun" ... the articulation is superb, really adds to the song, it sounds as if the character is genuinely motivated to make it. A great, new variation to the mood of the song, too. Well done.
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I like what you say about the length of a song. I remember writing when 3 minutes was the max, then FM radio took away all restrictions --well most. Sometimes the things we want to say can't be cut just to meet an imagined rule. Man, I really like your voice, Deej. The lyrics are so good, and I really like the close harmony. Missed you, man. Keep 'em coming.
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The relatable story carries the song through its length, the story full of heart. And same can be said of your singing, very emotional. Enjoyable arrangement works, I really like how the drums are brought to the front at the dawning sun. Let's keep on believing in paper dreams  Janne
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Epic, heartfelt song... Great work DeeJ, at first it kinda' reminded me of Cat Stevens.
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Time is a fleeting thing when there is something to say. Excellent story and arrangement, Deej.
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Deej, every song is as long as it has to be and this one is the correct length. You had to get all of the lyrics in otherwise the song wouldn't flow properly.
"my small talents" WHAT! That is BS and this song is proof.
Everything about this is top shelf! Great vocal and lyrics, super backing tracks, and an outstanding mix.
Loved it.
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Deej,
This track sounds great! Your vocals are always very good, and this continues that tradition!
The chorus on this checks all the boxes for a great tune.... Catchy with a good hook or two and performed with passion!
Some songs justify a long track length and this one certainly does for me!
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Hi David Wow. This is once again a catchy tune with a great lyric The song structure is top class The end is great done Your singing is of course the decisive thing so that a good song becomes an absolutely brilliant song For me you are one of the best singers here Great work, David Many greetings Andi ;-)
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What an epic production with a powerful write and passionate performance!
Your emotive vocals really bring the listener in to this story. I (Janice) was so caught up in it that I was crying out, "don't give up, don't give up, hold onto your dreams!"
The arrangement is excellent and we agree with others on how effective the drums are at the "dawning of the sun" section.
Most definitely worth the effort!
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I like it. Good work on the lyrics. It's a good production. Since you know it's long, I won't get into that.
Yep.... Well done.
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OK, DJ, this is epic! It is also....EPIC!!!!!  There is a lot of stuff in here man. It all sounds great, don't get me wrong, but it is, well.... EPIC!  One thing, folks might be singing this ritualistically around a campfire one day like American Pie.
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Hi David,
What a really wonderful song you made. And with those beautiful lyrics! I love this all; the style, the sober band and the strong vocal performance. I wouldn't mind if it had last another extra minute or so. But I know that struggle about the lenght of song very much...
I'm glad you are back here. And what a new start it was. Brilliant!
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Super vocal Deej. Loved the way the vocal sat in the mix. Very cool tune
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Nice to hear your shining vocals again!
This is EXCELLENT!
Typically, I try to avoid long songs but this one could have gone a few more minutes without overstaying it's welcome.
The band was great and as always the vocal shines.
The story line kept me engaged.
Loved it!
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Hi Deej,
Really wonderful song! Your voice sometimes sounds a bit like James Blunt's. The choruses sound terrific!
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Hi Deej, Fantastic write. Did not feel long. Signature vocals! I liked the contrast between mandolin and electro guitar. Amazing effort. Thank you for sharing.
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Well presented, I like the way the song is defined, and combined in a great lyric. Quality vocals, and a quality mix.
Well done.
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