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The LAW says that a cover version needs to be music created by me. But the original music must be used.


I don't know what this means. You can do a cover version of a song with your own arrangement as far as I know, but I could be wrong. Not being a musician and not being able to use sheet music to put the arrangement into BIAB would be quite a problem. Best bet is MIDI backing tracks available for purchase all over the place on the web or Karaoke tracks.


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............ You can do a cover version of a song with your own arrangement as far as I know, but I could be wrong. ....................


For your own personal use yes that is true but it is not true if you post or sell your version. Then melody line and lyrics are covered by copyright, but backing tracks or arrangement usually are not: if the backing track or arrangement are a unique part of the song then they could also be copyright covered.

For instance say you take the melody and lyrics of Misty and put them in front of a metal band doing a samba backing track and post it you are breaking copyright laws.

PS - that is why PGM does not allow cover songs to be posted if you do not have a license that allows you to use said cover song.

Note that I am not a lawyer nor have I played one on TV but that is what I have read.


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............ You can do a cover version of a song with your own arrangement as far as I know, but I could be wrong. ....................


For your own personal use yes that is true but it is not true if you post or sell your version. Then melody line and lyrics are covered by copyright, but backing tracks or arrangement usually are not: if the backing track or arrangement are a unique part of the song then they could also be copyright covered.

For instance say you take the melody and lyrics of Misty and put them in front of a metal band doing a samba backing track and post it you are breaking copyright laws.

PS - that is why PGM does not allow cover songs to be posted if you do not have a license that allows you to use said cover song.

Note that I am not a lawyer nor have I played one on TV but that is what I have read.


I understand that completely. I was questioning the part of the OP statement that the law says to play a cover song "the original music must be used".

I was not referring to illegal playing and posting a cover song. Let's say you are playing in a band in an establishment, that pays the licensing fees required to have live music playing copyrighted songs. You song does not have to match the original for you to play it. You can do a bluegrass version of stairway to heaven if you want.


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I understand that completely. I was questioning the part of the OP statement that the law says to play a cover song "the original music must be used".


OK I get it now.And by the way where is the OP?

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I was not referring to illegal playing and posting a cover song. Let's say you are playing in a band in an establishment, that pays the licensing fees required to have live music playing copyrighted songs. You song does not have to match the original for you to play it. You can do a bluegrass version of stairway to heaven if you want.


Yes I agree. I was talking about posting a cover song on the Internet without the proper licenses.


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I have yet to actually buy Band in a Box and wanted to find out first if it would fit my needs best.

Top the point, I am an amateur singer. I am interested in creating my own cover versions of popular songs. For the sake of example, I might want to sing the song "Hello" by Adel.

The LAW says that a cover version needs to be music created by me. But, the original music must be used.

To the point, I don't play an instrument and I really don't want to spend hours and hours getting the music all set up. What I want to do is find a way to quickly take the sheet music (Which honestly I don't really know how to read) and get into into my DAW so I can sing to it and I am exploring if Band in a Box is the answer?

Once again, getting the music set up is the part I want to spend the least amount of time on!

What can I do?


First off.... I think you will enjoy BB when you get it.

Second... If you create a cover, you are under no obligation or LAW to use the original music. You can copy it note for note or make any arrangement of it that you wish. The only thing the law says is that in order to post it for the public to hear, you would have to purchase the license to do that legally.

I rarely do covers for this reason but I have a few that are well hidden from prying eyes. One is a Creedence Clearwater Revival Song.... Have you ever seen the rain, Another is Neil Young Rockin in the free world, and the last one is Mott the Hoople's All the young dudes.

As far as setting up the chords in BB, I think that not one of those took more than a couple of minutes..... about ten minutes or so at most. If you know the song, and the chords, you simply enter them and ..... well, I play along as I enter the chords to be sure I'm getting it right. Once you have the first verse.... it's a simple copy and paste for the rest of the verses and a few minutes to do the same with the chorus. Essentially, you enter one verse and one chorus, copy and paste and add any bridges, solos, and endings. Total time per song.... 15 to 20 minutes average.

I don't read sheet music either. I simply enter the chords and let it roll. If you know a little about music and chords, this is doable. The more you know obviously, the easier it is but it's also a learning process and as you learn it gets easier.

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Yes, I've been wondering the exact same thing. A lot of effort has been expended by the team here to try and assist. cry


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I have Biab 2022 when I play a song it works fine great sound. When I save the song I lose sound but I see th song playing. What could be the issue - I have even froze the piano part to keep it from regen but the song still has no sound

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Welcome to the forum. Could you please start a new thread so your question isn’t lost in this one? I’m sure we can help.

We will need to ask you some questions, including whether your song uses MIDI or RealTracks, and what your audio drivers are. Do you have BIAB 2022, which build #, and are you running BIAB on a PC or a Mac?


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+++ Karaoke-Version.com +++ Pick out your song. +++ Hello by Adele +++, customize as desired and pay $2.99 per song.


Yes, this site is pretty good and you can customize the version you want, take out tracks etc. I have used it for some Christmas songs before. Came out quite nice.


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I am exploring if Band in a Box is the answer?
Once again, getting the music set up is the part I want to spend the least amount of time on!
What can I do?

Whoever suggested you look into BIAB was on the money. Outside the approach of downloading karaoke tracks, there is no faster, more flexible, and in my opinion better choice for backup tracks for cover. Karaoke is karaoke. What you see is what you get. BB permits style, mix, instrument changes & the rhythm sections are awesome.
If I see a problem, in your approach, it is in music theory hesitancy, a lack of committment to learning the basics that will, in the long run, I fear cause you some regret and slow you down, ultimately, short of the goal. This could be the reason users here are suggesting commercial backing tracks.
I suggest getting familiar with Chordie.com, which is a vocalists' and rhythm guitarists' lead sheet site -- lyrics and chords.
With any software, user friendly as it may be, there is no getting away from time spent learning the program. If you're not willing to take that time, then the karaoke may fill your need.


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