|
Log in to post
|
Print Thread |
|
|
|
|
|
Beginners Forum
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 730
Journeyman
|
Journeyman
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 730 |
The LAW says that a cover version needs to be music created by me. But the original music must be used. I don't know what this means. You can do a cover version of a song with your own arrangement as far as I know, but I could be wrong. Not being a musician and not being able to use sheet music to put the arrangement into BIAB would be quite a problem. Best bet is MIDI backing tracks available for purchase all over the place on the web or Karaoke tracks.
My wife asked if I had seen the dog bowl. I told her I didn't even know he could.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Beginners Forum
|
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 21,092
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 21,092 |
............ You can do a cover version of a song with your own arrangement as far as I know, but I could be wrong. ....................
For your own personal use yes that is true but it is not true if you post or sell your version. Then melody line and lyrics are covered by copyright, but backing tracks or arrangement usually are not: if the backing track or arrangement are a unique part of the song then they could also be copyright covered. For instance say you take the melody and lyrics of Misty and put them in front of a metal band doing a samba backing track and post it you are breaking copyright laws. PS - that is why PGM does not allow cover songs to be posted if you do not have a license that allows you to use said cover song. Note that I am not a lawyer nor have I played one on TV but that is what I have read.
You know you're getting old when a recliner and a heating pad is your idea of a hot date!
64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Beginners Forum
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 730
Journeyman
|
|
Journeyman
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 730 |
............ You can do a cover version of a song with your own arrangement as far as I know, but I could be wrong. ....................
For your own personal use yes that is true but it is not true if you post or sell your version. Then melody line and lyrics are covered by copyright, but backing tracks or arrangement usually are not: if the backing track or arrangement are a unique part of the song then they could also be copyright covered. For instance say you take the melody and lyrics of Misty and put them in front of a metal band doing a samba backing track and post it you are breaking copyright laws. PS - that is why PGM does not allow cover songs to be posted if you do not have a license that allows you to use said cover song. Note that I am not a lawyer nor have I played one on TV but that is what I have read. I understand that completely. I was questioning the part of the OP statement that the law says to play a cover song "the original music must be used". I was not referring to illegal playing and posting a cover song. Let's say you are playing in a band in an establishment, that pays the licensing fees required to have live music playing copyrighted songs. You song does not have to match the original for you to play it. You can do a bluegrass version of stairway to heaven if you want.
My wife asked if I had seen the dog bowl. I told her I didn't even know he could.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Beginners Forum
|
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 21,092
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 21,092 |
I understand that completely. I was questioning the part of the OP statement that the law says to play a cover song "the original music must be used".
I was not referring to illegal playing and posting a cover song. Let's say you are playing in a band in an establishment, that pays the licensing fees required to have live music playing copyrighted songs. You song does not have to match the original for you to play it. You can do a bluegrass version of stairway to heaven if you want.
You know you're getting old when a recliner and a heating pad is your idea of a hot date!
64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Beginners Forum
|
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 9,414
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 9,414 |
I have yet to actually buy Band in a Box and wanted to find out first if it would fit my needs best.
Top the point, I am an amateur singer. I am interested in creating my own cover versions of popular songs. For the sake of example, I might want to sing the song "Hello" by Adel.
The LAW says that a cover version needs to be music created by me. But, the original music must be used.
To the point, I don't play an instrument and I really don't want to spend hours and hours getting the music all set up. What I want to do is find a way to quickly take the sheet music (Which honestly I don't really know how to read) and get into into my DAW so I can sing to it and I am exploring if Band in a Box is the answer?
Once again, getting the music set up is the part I want to spend the least amount of time on!
What can I do? First off.... I think you will enjoy BB when you get it. Second... If you create a cover, you are under no obligation or LAW to use the original music. You can copy it note for note or make any arrangement of it that you wish. The only thing the law says is that in order to post it for the public to hear, you would have to purchase the license to do that legally. I rarely do covers for this reason but I have a few that are well hidden from prying eyes. One is a Creedence Clearwater Revival Song.... Have you ever seen the rain, Another is Neil Young Rockin in the free world, and the last one is Mott the Hoople's All the young dudes. As far as setting up the chords in BB, I think that not one of those took more than a couple of minutes..... about ten minutes or so at most. If you know the song, and the chords, you simply enter them and ..... well, I play along as I enter the chords to be sure I'm getting it right. Once you have the first verse.... it's a simple copy and paste for the rest of the verses and a few minutes to do the same with the chorus. Essentially, you enter one verse and one chorus, copy and paste and add any bridges, solos, and endings. Total time per song.... 15 to 20 minutes average. I don't read sheet music either. I simply enter the chords and let it roll. If you know a little about music and chords, this is doable. The more you know obviously, the easier it is but it's also a learning process and as you learn it gets easier. Hope this helps.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Beginners Forum
|
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 18,576
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 18,576 |
And by the way where is the OP? Yes, I've been wondering the exact same thing. A lot of effort has been expended by the team here to try and assist. 
BIAB & RB2024 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Beginners Forum
|
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 9,414
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 9,414 |
And by the way where is the OP? Yes, I've been wondering the exact same thing. A lot of effort has been expended by the team here to try and assist. ghosted again....
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Beginners Forum
|
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 11,501
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 11,501 |
And by the way where is the OP? Yes, I've been wondering the exact same thing. A lot of effort has been expended by the team here to try and assist. ghosted again.... Hit and Run! 
Dan, BIAB2024, SoundCloud Win11, i7(12thGen), 32GB, 1TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD), 2TB Libraries, 1 TB(WD-Black), 2TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD)Data, Motu Audio Express, Keystation 61, SL88 Studio, Reaper
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Beginners Forum
|
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 84
Enthusiast
|
|
Enthusiast
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 84 |
Find out more of sjs94704 by seaching sjs94704 on google - you might be suprised!
Keith
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Beginners Forum
|
Joined: Mar 2022
Posts: 1
Newbie
|
|
Newbie
Joined: Mar 2022
Posts: 1 |
I have Biab 2022 when I play a song it works fine great sound. When I save the song I lose sound but I see th song playing. What could be the issue - I have even froze the piano part to keep it from regen but the song still has no sound
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Beginners Forum
|
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 25,972
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 25,972 |
Welcome to the forum. Could you please start a new thread so your question isn’t lost in this one? I’m sure we can help.
We will need to ask you some questions, including whether your song uses MIDI or RealTracks, and what your audio drivers are. Do you have BIAB 2022, which build #, and are you running BIAB on a PC or a Mac?
BIAB 2024 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 6.5 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6; Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus Studio 192, Presonus Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Beginners Forum
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 730
Journeyman
|
|
Journeyman
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 730 |
Yes, this site is pretty good and you can customize the version you want, take out tracks etc. I have used it for some Christmas songs before. Came out quite nice.
My wife asked if I had seen the dog bowl. I told her I didn't even know he could.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Beginners Forum
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 730
Journeyman
|
|
Journeyman
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 730 |
Find out more of sjs94704 by searching sjs94704 on google - you might be suprised!
Keith Looks like a serial poster.
My wife asked if I had seen the dog bowl. I told her I didn't even know he could.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Beginners Forum
|
Joined: Oct 2016
Posts: 1,564
Expert
|
|
Expert
Joined: Oct 2016
Posts: 1,564 |
I am exploring if Band in a Box is the answer?
Once again, getting the music set up is the part I want to spend the least amount of time on!
What can I do?
Whoever suggested you look into BIAB was on the money. Outside the approach of downloading karaoke tracks, there is no faster, more flexible, and in my opinion better choice for backup tracks for cover. Karaoke is karaoke. What you see is what you get. BB permits style, mix, instrument changes & the rhythm sections are awesome. If I see a problem, in your approach, it is in music theory hesitancy, a lack of committment to learning the basics that will, in the long run, I fear cause you some regret and slow you down, ultimately, short of the goal. This could be the reason users here are suggesting commercial backing tracks. I suggest getting familiar with Chordie.com, which is a vocalists' and rhythm guitarists' lead sheet site -- lyrics and chords. With any software, user friendly as it may be, there is no getting away from time spent learning the program. If you're not willing to take that time, then the karaoke may fill your need.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Video: Band-in-a-Box® + ChatGPT = Impressed the BOSS!
Band-in-a-Box User Video Tutorials!
If you've reviewed our Support page, you've probably noticed the Videos page, which separates our Band-in-a-Box® tutorial videos by category: Overview, VST DAW Plugin, Setup, Beginner, Intermediate, Advanced, and there's even an Archive category to go down memory lane... (You'll also find these videos on our YouTube Channel.)
It's always great to hear how other Band-in-a-Box® users create their songs, especially when they explain in detail what they're doing. Like Henry Clarke's YouTube Channel, Henry Clarke - Senior Musicians Unite! There you'll find his ALL Band-in-a-Box Tutorials playlist with over 50 videos! His top-three most watched videos include "How to Get Started with Band-in-a-Box," "How I use the Audio Chord Wizard in Band-in-a-Box," and "How to Create An Effective Solo Using Band-in-a-Box" - however he touches on many other topics and also demonstrates his own Band-in-a-Box® songs in the Band-in-a-Box Created Songs playlist!
You're guaranteed to find some helpful videos when you visit Henry Clarke's channel!
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 Italian for Windows is Here!
Ci siamo dati da fare e abbiamo aggiunto oltre 50 nuove funzionalità e una straordinaria raccolta di nuovi contenuti, tra cui 222 RealTracks, nuovi RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, "Songs with Vocals" Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 3, Playable RealDrums Set 2, due nuovi set di "RealDrums Stems", XPro Styles PAK 6, Xtra Styles PAK 17 e altro ancora!
Tutti Pacchetti | Nuove Caratteristiche
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 French for Windows is Here!
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 apporte plus de 50 fonctions nouvelles ainsi qu'une importante de contenus nouveaux à savoir : 222 RealTracks, des RealStyles nouveaux, des SuperTracks MIDI, des Etudes d'Instruments, des Prestations d'Artistes, des "Morceaux avec Choeurs", un Set 3 de Tracks Jouables, un Set 2 de RealDrums Jouables, deux nouveaux Sets de "RealDrums Stems", des Styles XPro PAK 6, des Xtra Styles PAK 17 et bien plus encore!
Tous Packages | Nouvelles Fonctionnalités
Video: Making a Song with Band-in-a-Box®, ChatGPT, and Synth V
Take your Band-in-a-Box® project to a whole new level when you incorporate ChatGPT and Synth V to add lyrics and vocals to your song!
We wanted to demonstrate how this is done with our video, where we show you how to go from nothing to a finished "radio ready" modern pop song by combining the features of Band-in-a-Box®, ChatGPT, and Synth V!
Listen to the finished song, so you get a listen to the finished product: https://demos.pgmusic.com/misc/behindthefame.m4a
If you like it, watch the video. Either way, let's hear your comments!
Henry Clarke: Revolutionize Your Band-in-Box® Tracks with Regenerating Function
User Video: Convert MIDI Chords into AI Vocal Harmonies with ACE Studio and Band-in-a-Box®
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forums65
Topics81,940
Posts739,864
Members38,649
| |
Most Online2,537
Jan 19th, 2020
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dansk
Deutsch - Windows
Español
Français - Windows
Italiano - Windows
Nederlands
Polski
Português
Svenskt
русский
Japanese
Simplified Chinese
Traditional Chinese
Korean