Yeah Charlie,
I have to agree here on several points. And maybe I will add a few.
FIRST, if you have ever used ANY Real Track or BIAB/RB process/tool or track on ANY song you have ever done, then the entire argument breaks down. Who gets to be the judge on how much Band-in-a-Box is too much?? God???
SECOND, I have read some CRAZY stuff on these forums about what is legit.
For example, many times I have heard this argument or something like it on these very forums: "Well he is a REAL producer. He is using REAL loops from Bandlab and making his own loop tracks! In Ableton! Not Band-in-a-Box loops!"
Insane very much??????
THIRD, 90% or more music today is written by people who have no knowledge of music theory whatsoever, I would guess, and don't play anything. So, the bar is pretty low. If you type in a chord progression that is like having a Ph.D in today's world.
And NEXT TO LAST, I think I play guitar at a pretty advanced level and do know how to sight read. And I think BIAB is a miracle.
I am able to jam out at 3 o'clock in the morning through an amp (speaker unplugged) with the signal running through an amplitube chain and Shannon Forrest playing drums. I can call up a list of stars to play bass and I am off. What's not to love.
And FINALLY, the STYLES, especially the X-tra Styles (to me) are a super miracle and you are SUPPOSED to use them, to try out new sounds and genres.
Say you grew up playing like R.E.M. or Alabama (or anyone else, just pick a name). Chances are that left to your own devices. everything you played would still sound like R.E.M. or Alabama, or John Mayer, or whatever.
The styles allow you to get more creative by showing you OTHER ways you might sound, and for most people that is miraculous and they have to use these styles to experiment with it all, and then learn from it all to get better.
But, the final question I always have for anyone in these discussions is this:
May I PLEASE hear you latest tune??????????
This site is not about talking at the end of the day. You can talk anywhere.
Where is your latest SONG????????????????????????????????????? Can I please hear it.
That is what I am always thinking. Always.