The strict rules and disciplines of the formerly free flowing musical form.
I'm pleased he's a superb trumpeter & composer rather than comedian...that prepared, read joke/pun fell flat. Music is a metaphor IS a metaphor. Does that make it a metametaphor?
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Cheers rayc "What's so funny about peace, love & understanding?" - N.Lowe
I'm pleased he's a superb trumpeter & composer rather than comedian...that prepared, read joke/pun fell flat. Music is a metaphor IS a metaphor. Does that make it a metametaphor?
I just studied and listened to the delivery again. The key point in this lecture series was to articulate the position and importance of the rhythm section in swing music, and how different instruments provided dissimilar input to collectively contribute to a swing style.
To quote Wikipedia: "A common definition of metaphor can be described as a comparison that shows how two things that are not alike in most ways are similar in another important way."
And that's exactly what Mr Marsalis proceeded to describe.
When I listened carefully to the dialog again, and carefully studied the intent of the lecture, I found that the use of the term 'metaphor' in the subject title was absolutely perfect.
I don't understand why any comment should have mentioned 'metaphor' and a 'joke/pun fell flat'. However, I would gratefully receive a detailed explanation and analysis for my better understanding.
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When Wynton first went back to the roots of Jazz, I was rather disappointed. "He's throwing away all the evolution and fusion that's come since". I've now come to believe that he's strengthening and consolidating the roots and foundations, not throwing anything away.
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As a youngster, I hated Wynton’s music with a passion. Then, on a jazz summer camp, I was in a band led by John Ruocco, a great teacher, tenor saxophone player, clarinetist whom I worship for his modernity, his lyricism and avant gardism.
When some students and I started criticizing Wynton Marsalis, he lectured us -albeit in a fatherly manner.
He said: “I have never heard Wynton play one single note that wasn’t sincere”.
That shut me up, big time.
Musical preferences aside (I do like Branford’s music a lot more than I do Wynton’s), I’ve come to respect this great man’s work.
@Gordon, what you write in your comment is so deep and true. Helps remind me of the need to be open minded: towards the past as well as towards the future.
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I'm pleased he's a superb trumpeter & composer rather than comedian...that prepared, read joke/pun fell flat. Music is a metaphor IS a metaphor. Does that make it a metametaphor?
I just studied and listened to the delivery again. The key point in this lecture series was to articulate the position and importance of the rhythm section in swing music, and how different instruments provided dissimilar input to collectively contribute to a swing style.
To quote Wikipedia: "A common definition of metaphor can be described as a comparison that shows how two things that are not alike in most ways are similar in another important way."
And that's exactly what Mr Marsalis proceeded to describe.
When I listened carefully to the dialog again, and carefully studied the intent of the lecture, I found that the use of the term 'metaphor' in the subject title was absolutely perfect.
I don't understand why any comment should have mentioned 'metaphor' and a 'joke/pun fell flat'. However, I would gratefully receive a detailed explanation and analysis for my better understanding.
Good evening AudioTrack,
You don't "understand" why I mentioned something? For shame, mine, clearly. Ought I read the Concise Requirements of Responding in AudioTrack's Threads sticky?
Wikipedia isn't always one's friend. It can be a confusing place as it also states, "A metaphor is a figure of speech that, for rhetorical effect, directly refers to one thing by mentioning another. It may provide clarity or identify hidden similarities between two different ideas."1. Not to forget Wiki also suggests, "The word metaphor itself is a metaphor..."2.
The basic idea, as taught to 10-12 year old students in NSW, is similar to the following: On the football field he is a tiger. Metaphor On the football field he is like a tiger. Simile She shone from the stage. Metaphor - implied. She shone from the stage like a star. Simile. One suggests a comparison while the other
I didn't criticize his use of the word metaphor; I pointed to the fact that it could be READ AS a metaphor. I found it an amusing moment in his little dialogue which I attempted to amplify with a pun. Obviously that failed. I found it more amusing than the pun/joke/metaphor of "...un-legislated division of power..." which, it appears, fell flat.
Ought I read the Concise Requirements of Responding in AudioTrack's Threads sticky?
Sigh... I'm gone. Feel free to continue to 'entertain' others by exploiting multiple meanings of a description if you think that is useful. It was never the intention of my participation. My participation was about the relevance of the musical content.
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Much as I feel Rayc’s first reaction had no intention to harshly criticize anyone. Maybe I misread.
we’re here for the love of the music, as are most forum members. Soft spoken and otherwise.
Let’s join to promote harmony.
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