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My old Focusrite Saffire 6 USB has become very temperamental,
so I'm looking for a replacement. Priorities are low latency and stable drivers (Win10). Only need two inputs. Any recommendations?
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I dunno, if you only need 2 inputs, maybe a 2i2?
Have you tested the cable being used (swap it) to see if that is the culprit?
Only time I've had USB problems with a Focusrite was due to the USB cord, not the device, so thought I'd ask
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I've had the same experience as rharv and would recommend doing what he said.
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Oh, yeah. Cables are cheap. And relatively fragile.
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90db.. Here is a list of usb sound devices i started that lots of pg users have contributed to ie..their interfaces that work with pg software. https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=635707#Post635707Lots of interfaces. I would rent first , which is what i do , if you can.. to ensure all is copacetic with your pc /rig etc. my music store lets me rent for 30 days to test. Lots of you tube vids also on how good certain interfaces are. One series i like is julian krauses who does very detailed objective reviews. https://www.youtube.com/c/JulianKrause/videosI happen to be fan of audient. If were me i would look closely at the audient id range, And motu M range and the new volt series , as well as ssl interface. But there are lots of options. Best om
my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs(90 songs created useing bb/rb) (lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)
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I dunno, if you only need 2 inputs, maybe a 2i2?
Have you tested the cable being used (swap it) to see if that is the culprit?
Only time I've had USB problems with a Focusrite was due to the USB cord, not the device, so thought I'd ask Thanks. I will try that. The real problem seems to be the drivers though. Regards, Bob
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Bob, have you seen this? There are two variants of the Saffire 6 USB - one is a USB 1.1 device and the other is USB 2.0. To check which variant you have you can reference the serial number on the underside of the unit: if the serial begins "SU" then you have the USB 1.1 variant, it it begins "S2" then you have the USB 2.0 variant.
Saffire 6 USB 1.1 is no longer under development support, meaning we are not able to provide any further updates to support macOS Catalina or future versions of macOS or Windows. Saffire 6 USB 1.1 will continue to function as normal on macOS 10.14 Mojave and below, the latest version of Windows that Saffire 6 USB 1.1 was tested on is Windows 10 build 1809 - you may experience problems with your Saffire 6 USB 1.1 if you update Windows beyond this version.
Saffire 6 USB 2.0 is supported on macOS 10.15 Catalina and Windows 10 build 1903. Please continue to check on the compatibility status of Saffire 6 USB 2.0 before updating to future operating systems.
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Bob, have you seen this? There are two variants of the Saffire 6 USB - one is a USB 1.1 device and the other is USB 2.0. To check which variant you have you can reference the serial number on the underside of the unit: if the serial begins "SU" then you have the USB 1.1 variant, it it begins "S2" then you have the USB 2.0 variant.
Saffire 6 USB 1.1 is no longer under development support, meaning we are not able to provide any further updates to support macOS Catalina or future versions of macOS or Windows. Saffire 6 USB 1.1 will continue to function as normal on macOS 10.14 Mojave and below, the latest version of Windows that Saffire 6 USB 1.1 was tested on is Windows 10 build 1809 - you may experience problems with your Saffire 6 USB 1.1 if you update Windows beyond this version.
Saffire 6 USB 2.0 is supported on macOS 10.15 Catalina and Windows 10 build 1903. Please continue to check on the compatibility status of Saffire 6 USB 2.0 before updating to future operating systems. Yes, Jim. I have the USB 1.1 model. No longer supported.  Regards, Bob
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FWIW, some years back I bought a first generation Scarlett 2i2. Since then I've bought a Solo, an 8i6 and a first generation Saffire Pro 40.
They've all performed well on both Windows and Linux, though the second generation Pro 40 has issues on Linux as the chip maker (TC Helicon) wouldn't release support information for OpenSource use :-(
Jazz relative beginner, starting at a much older age than was helpful.
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Thanks Mario; I've tried those drivers. I just ordered the MOTU M4, for my birthday next month. Should solve the problems. Regards, Bob
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... I just ordered the MOTU M4, for my birthday next month. Should solve the problems. Regards, Bob May want to return to your first post and use the button at the bottom of the post to mark the thread as resolved. Otherwise I can see someone adding to the thread ten years from now. 
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... I just ordered the MOTU M4, for my birthday next month. Should solve the problems. Regards, Bob May want to return to your first post and use the button at the bottom of the post to mark the thread as resolved. Otherwise I can see someone adding to the thread ten years from now. I thought I had already done that Jim. I missed the step on the next page!  Regards, Bob
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An update: The MOTU M4 took me from a Focusrite driver nightmare to MOTU Audio Heaven. Latency??? What "latency"?  It just worked right out of the box, which has not been my experience in the past. Plenty of gain, excellent monitor output. To add to that, the M4 comes with a package that includes Digital Performer Lite, so I now have another DAW to play with.  Regards, Bob
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