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Matt, if the styles are identical between a Mac and PC then yes the OS doesn't matter. Note I have no experience with a Mac so I don't know that answer.
But maybe the package does. IIRC some RTs were corrected with updates. Does that include changing chords I do not know.
Maybe someone with knowledge of these can help. Mario, you make a great point. I don't know that answer either (about updates), and I think it might be No, but we don't know for certain if updates might correct such behavior. I tend to think that BIAB has not changed in this regard, but who can say for sure? You've given another good reason why it's important to learn the relevant details. We used to have a forum user who knew the answers to undefined questions, even before the questioner pressed Send. But he's not active now, so for the rest of us, may we please have some answers and let the process play out?
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We used to have a forum user who knew the answers to undefined questions, even before the questioner pressed Send. But he's not active now, so for the rest of us, may we please have some answers and let the process play out? I did try to cooperate. My answer requested further information, and stayed focused to try to get a clearer understanding of how I might be helpful to assist the O/P, including clarifying why more detail was important. Not everyone apparently saw it that way. Some posts included rather unusual statements. Clearly I missed something that must have been relevant, which is a shame.
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We used to have a forum user who knew the answers to undefined questions, even before the questioner pressed Send. But he's not active now, so for the rest of us, may we please have some answers and let the process play out? I did try to cooperate. My answer requested further information, and stayed focused to try to get a clearer understanding of how I might be helpful. Not everyone apparently saw it that way, which is a shame. Your questions were spot on.
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I did try to cooperate. My answer requested further information, and stayed focused to try to get a clearer understanding of how I might be helpful. Not everyone apparently saw it that way, which is a shame. Oh, fiddle dee dee. You pulled this same move with our resident Expert, berating others for not being as helpful as you, until you had enough yourself and took to consistently berating him for Failure To Study Music Theory. In this case, your "spot on" questions came with a rebuke which all but guaranteed they would be ignored: O/P: Please provide more detail. You essentially provided as minimal detail as possible. You didn't even state what Key Signature you are using, or which Style, or which version/build of the program you are using.
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"You can lead a horse to water, but you you can't..."
Sorry for the clutter...
I've run into this issue before, using RTs...
Country music players will tend to play that 7th on the V chord... they can't help themselves... deal with it.
There are many ways to mitigate the issue... just fix it, and "move on with the song"...
The OP said himself, he Reason'd a workaround...
Don't wait around for a code-writer to fix it... adapt
grin;-)again... I'm sorry for the rant & clutter...
edit: sorry again, I just realized there was a 2nd page to this thread.
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In this case, your "spot on" questions came with a rebuke which all but guaranteed they would be ignored: O/P: Please provide more detail. You essentially provided as minimal detail as possible. You didn't even state what Key Signature you are using, or which Style, or which version/build of the program you are using. That was a rebuke? Seriously? Clarifying from a musical perspective why more information could be useful, instead of mentioning solid gold babies, icy rivers and ripening fruit? Seriously?
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Yeah I feel like I must be missing something here because the responses from AudioTrack (the artist formerly known as VideoTrack) seemed to be pretty much snark-free (unlike mine which was pure snark!)
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And now that we are well into page 3 of this conversation I sincerely hope that we have met or exceeded the OP's expectations!
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That was a rebuke? Seriously? Clarifying from a musical perspective why more information could be useful, instead of mentioning solid gold babies, icy rivers and ripening fruit? Seriously? Yes, seriously, and you didn't clarify anything. The poster made clear that questions about his configuration would not be well received – “it’s a glitch, period” – to which you responded with... questions about his configuration, adding the observation that he had ”provided as minimal detail as possible” and "didn't even" provide some other information. I call that a rebuke, would "reprimand" be better? Why not just post the Matt Doc link and say, "Here, this might help"? Anyway, thanks for the recap.
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And now that we are well into page 3 of this conversation I sincerely hope that we have met or exceeded the OP's expectations! I have one question, where is the OP? One rant, lots of help, and no response.
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And now that we are well into page 3 of this conversation I sincerely hope that we have met or exceeded the OP's expectations! I have one question, where is the OP? One rant, lots of help, and no response. Typical of these people. Haven't you noticed?
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I considered reporting my various findings, but thought better of it. Yupperissimo. The response to > this is a glitch. period. that came to my mind was, “Are you going to mark the thread resolved?” How are you seeing AudioTrack's comments as snarky and yours as not? I am honestly puzzled as your multiple comments seemed snarkier!
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I considered reporting my various findings, but thought better of it. Yupperissimo. The response to > this is a glitch. period. that came to my mind was, “Are you going to mark the thread resolved?” How are you seeing AudioTrack's comments as snarky and yours as not? I am honestly puzzled as your multiple comments seemed snarkier! Never said they weren't. I was annoyed. Anyway, can't wait 'til Khan Flo Mah comes back in two years and gives us his take.
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I still think i'm right about the way the realtracks are recorded. as a guitarist playing in the key of C if i played C-D-G i'd play the D as D7. In G it would be G - A7 - D. faced with that chord progression i bet the players on the realtracks do what i would do. the OP's original chord progression is now so far gone i can't be bothered to look it up but i'm sure guitarists will know what i'm talking about. if only the OP had tried a midi style maybe we would have the answer by now.
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I still think i'm right about the way the realtracks are recorded. as a guitarist playing in the key of C if i played C-D-G i'd play the D as D7. In G it would be G - A7 - D. faced with that chord progression i bet the players on the realtracks do what i would do. the OP's original chord progression is now so far gone i can't be bothered to look it up but i'm sure guitarists will know what i'm talking about. if only the OP had tried a midi style maybe we would have the answer by now. With all respect... You're talking about the II chord being a 7th... I believe the OP was complaining about the V chord being forced to a 7th. edit: of course I could be wrong in assuming the OP's chord progression is in the key of G... He did say "the genre was country."
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Do we know the key signature yet?
If we knew that, and the particular style that was used, we might be able to test and possibly offer a suggestion for a satisfactory workaround.
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Do we know the key signature yet?
If we knew that, and the particular style that was used, we might be able to test and possibly offer a suggestion for a satisfactory workaround. Of course you are right... we don't know the Key signature, I am probably wrong in assuming the OP's chord progression is in the key of G... but again, he did say "the genre was country." grin;-)
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Do we know the key signature yet? We know nothing that wasn't in that one original post, which was precious little. There has been no follow-up, no answers, no clarification, nothing. I like to give the benefit of the doubt on these things, but I think here, that may be misplaced.
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Further checking, the O/P has been online since the original post, and has provided no additional feedback.
I think the O/P has simply vented, and left. Possibly did not even want assistance. The content of the post clearly suggests this.
Responses from some users clearly tried to help, which is the way this forum normally works. Others, less so.
For me, I hope the O/P becomes credibly involved again.
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