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i think this video explains why BIAB midi is not exactly quantized. at least it does if the way BIAB styles are created hasn't changed. drums are entered on a grid but at about 12.48 on this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28IjWyLQBgM

you'll see that BIAB midi style parts are played in on a midi keyboard when a style is created. they are not 'humanised' - they are played by a human so naturally 'humanised'. hence they might not exactly quantise as midi parts.

this was a trip down memory lane as i learnt BIAB from floppy discs. do you think i'm right?


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Bob, I do agree, and that's why I mentioned the stylemaker.


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Leo, unless I've misunderstood, the Gigabyte GTX 560 is a graphics card. Does that mean you do not have a separate sound interface? Regardless of the topic of this thread, you might want to consider that as an area for possible improvement: something like a Focusrite or Presonus unit. I have also read that the MIDI timing of a built-in soundcard can be poor, although I don't that that's what we are seeing here.


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My mistake. I was a bit tired. I have a M-Audio Delta 1010LT sound card.

For me, the problem is clear now. Melodist creates humanized tracks and it is not an error. Maybe I shouldn't make a big deal about that. RealTracks and Super tracks have the same, because they are played by humans.

Same for downloading other midi files to my daw. Some are humanized and some are quantized. And not an error in my daw or in a midi file.

Exporting chords from Biab was a different problem. Dan explained this (page 1). Default chord export is 40 ticks early. When I import chords with 40 ticks early, the import results are all 40 ticks early. So This causes a problem if I do not correct this. But this was also not a fault in Biab, but a setting I didn't know.

So I am very happy with the results here and I can move on.

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Hi Leo,

If the problem is with MIDI melody that you have entered, then read on. If not, then there is no point reading this post.

In Notation Mode, if you click on "Opt", you will be taken to a set of preferences that affect melodies entered using Notation Mode. In the middle column, you'll see a setting called "Tick Offset". By default BIAB has this set and it changes automatically depending on what style is chosen. This setting causes all melody notes that are entered to be time-shifted by whatever value is shown.

I always disable this. If you have a look at my image below, numbers 3, 4, 5 show my settings. These are the disabled settings.

Hope this helps,
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The problem is with midi, but in PianoRoll, not in Notation. Notes are humanized and this is visible in PianoRoll only. But thanks for the info. Filled in a part of Biab that was unknown for me.

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Leo,

I haven't read through all the above posts because I don't have time to spare at the moment. As a consequence, I apologize if you've already answered these questions.

Just to clarify...

Is the MIDI that you are saving from styles using Realtracks or styles using MIDI?

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out of curiosity do you have the same problem in realband ? just an idea. run a trak test maybe.

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Hi Noel. It is MIDI, but the key is that his melody originates in The Melodist, which he has discovered does intentionally introduce some human-feel playing apart from the drums. So his problem is explained and basically resolved.

The thread raised lots of questions, but if the answer is very specifically just about The Melodist, then he's OK. My concern is that someone might draw incorrect conclusions about general MIDI use from the thread.


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Thanks, Matt.

I needn't try and solve any problem then. There are MIDI quantize facilities available on the different tracks under "Edit MIDI". To get these to work for Realtracks saved as MIDI, I'm guessing that after the MIDI file has been created, it would be necessary to load that MIDI file into BIAB and then run the quantize process.

Thanks again for bringing me up to date.
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