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the genre is country. so there should be no odd turn arounds added. real tracks. G B7 E
F#m C#7 D
A C#m D B7
G D A



the D in bold and underlined is playing a D7 EVERY TIME it does that turn around.

because I have Reason 11, I can export the tracks into WAV and cut and past a properly rendered D Major, where the wrong one plays.

(no this issue isnt because Im using a VST. No, the issue isnt because I have a bootleg version. ALL versions I have are authentic. YES it did this in the normal mode AND the vst mode)

this is a glitch. period. me having a mac or pc, doesnt matter. Please dont clutter the thread with that. I saw someone commenting on this matter, and the thread was filled with meaningless comments.

its a glitch. I have updated last year. the sort of package I have doesnt matter to chord rendering ... please dont bring that up.

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Originally Posted By: khan flo mah
Please dont clutter the thread with that. I saw someone commenting on this matter, and the thread was filled with meaningless comments.

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Knowing the year and build number of the program helps us provide a more accurate answer to your question because we know what you are using.

What style are you using? Have you substituted or added and RealTracks? Both the selected style and what RealTracks are used can affect what substituted chords are played. Have you tried changing any of the song settings such as turn off natural arrangement?


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Originally Posted By: khan flo mah
Please dont clutter the thread

Oh, when you post here at the PG Retirement Village, er I mean, PG Music forum, you're gonna get some clutter! (Like my post for example!)

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Originally Posted By: JohnJohnJohn
Originally Posted By: khan flo mah
Please dont clutter the thread

Oh, when you post here at the PG Retirement Village, er I mean, PG Music forum, you're gonna get some clutter! (Like my post for example!)


Quite the example of how not to get any help.


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Originally Posted By: khan flo mah
Please dont clutter the thread

Oh, when you post here at the PG Retirement Village, er I mean, PG Music forum, you're gonna get some clutter! (Like my post for example!)


Quite the example of how not to get any help.


Not you John. The OP.


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i think this has been aired before but i can't remember the details. the problem was with realtracks not midi. the progression and key structure in the previous post about why the seventh was played was explained by the way the guy who recorded the realtracks interpreted the chord change. i'm not exactly sure but it was that in the sequence entered, the player expected a seventh chord not a straight major - somehow the key signature and progression dictated whether a seventh was played or not.

i'll bet it doesn't happen with a midi only style. maybe someone with a better memory can recall the previous post.

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Hello khan flo mah,

Can you please share which Style you currently have selected and, if possible, which instrument(s) is playing the wrong chord?


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i'll bet it doesn't happen with a midi only style. maybe someone with a better memory can recall the previous post.

But of course the O/P went out of his way to decline to give more than minimal clues.

Out of curiosity I tried several different things to his description, all of which gave slightly different results, nicely demonstrating how futile it was even trying.

I considered reporting my various findings, but thought better of it.

Moral ... tell us what we need to know in the first place, and we won't feel the need to clutter or walk away. Sorry, but I think that's the way it is.


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Originally Posted By: Gordon Scott
I considered reporting my various findings, but thought better of it.

Yupperissimo. The response to
> this is a glitch. period.
that came to my mind was, “Are you going to mark the thread resolved?”

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I have previously posted eight suggestions you can try. But I won't clutter the thread further.


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O/P: Please provide more detail. You essentially provided as minimal detail as possible. You didn't even state what Key Signature you are using, or which Style, or which version/build of the program you are using.

Please review the detail in this thread which may be quite helpful.


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Originally Posted By: Mark Hayes
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I considered reporting my various findings, but thought better of it.

Yupperissimo. The response to

> this is a glitch. period.

that came to my mind was, “Are you going to mark the thread resolved?”


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Originally Posted By: khan flo mah

this is a glitch. period. me having a mac or pc, doesnt matter. Please dont clutter the thread with that.


So, are you on MAC or PC?

Originally Posted By: khan flo mah

its a glitch. I have updated last year. the sort of package I have doesnt matter to chord rendering ... please dont bring that up.


So, which package do you have?


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While I'm reluctant to comment with more uninvited clutter, I actually agree with the OP's position that the type of OS most likely doesn't matter here, nor does the package. [What may matter is what Jerry, Bob, Jim, and Audiotrack have asked, and other possibilities in my Tips post.]

Nevertheless, I believe in understanding the full picture before I rule anything out. This forum is normally effective at following that process, and short-circuiting it is done at our peril.


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This forum is normally effective at following that process, and short-circuiting it is done at our peril.

Totally agree. Criticism rarely helps to solve an issue. Users can become frustrated with unexpected challenges and perhaps not paint the full picture when explaining their dilemma.

But we, as a team, can work cooperatively to assist to resolve a user's issue. This is most often achieved through positive feedback and relevant communication, ideas, and sensible suggestions. That's the track we are most accustomed to in this forum. That's the level we should always aspire to work to.


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This forum is normally effective at following that process, and short-circuiting it is done at our peril.

Totally agree.

Really? With what?

The "short circuiting" Matt wants to avoid is presumably "trying to answer a question without sufficient information".

You, however, want to take it as a complaint about snarky respondents being mean to the OP, even though your own response complained that he "essentially provided as minimal detail as possible". Did you really expect that to go over well, pointing out that he was deliberately withholding information, then asking him for it again?

Anyway.

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Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
While I'm reluctant to comment with more uninvited clutter, I actually agree with the OP's position that the type of OS most likely doesn't matter here, nor does the package. [What may matter is what Jerry, Bob, Jim, and Audiotrack have asked, and other possibilities in my Tips post.]

Nevertheless, I believe in understanding the full picture before I rule anything out. This forum is normally effective at following that process, and short-circuiting it is done at our peril.




Matt, if the styles are identical between a Mac and PC then yes the OS doesn't matter. Note I have no experience with a Mac so I don't know that answer.

But maybe the package does. IIRC some RTs were corrected with updates. Does that include changing chords I do not know.

Maybe someone with knowledge of these can help.


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This tread was doomed from the onset by the snarky introduction. Which is a shame since the question is a good one, is not unusual, and has been addressed here in the forum in the past.

Quote:
“…D is playing a D7 EVERY TIME it does that turn around.”


There is a certain etiquette needed which was totally absent from the posting. Otherwise, the only redeeming value to this thread was:
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“…when you post here at the PG Retirement Village”
which brought a big smile to my face. grin


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PG Music desperately needs a really good Knowledge Base, and they need to integrate it into the forums.

For newbies, the forum posting process could include a brief interruption offering them a way to search the KB's Q&A format entries. "Would you like to...?" They can proceed in that direction, or they can continue on to post. (Regrettably, in tech support lingo this is called "case deflection", but it's not a bad thing.)

In this case, any conceivable wording of OP's concern would lead immediately to The Matt Document, which might settle everything, no snark in the park, just happy larks and dogs that bark.

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