Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread
Print Thread
Go To
User Showcase
Joined: Jun 2021
Posts: 1,689
Expert
OP Offline
Expert
Joined: Jun 2021
Posts: 1,689
Lullaby of a Distant Battlefield

I started out exploring how slow a tempo BIAB was really capable of, added an ominous Animoog track, and quickly found myself hearing very scary things I had not at all intended.

This short (1:39) piece features extreme distortions of a RealTrack guitar and some other things I lost track of, and can be regarded either as a musical miniature or a bit of programmatic sound design.

Born in BIAB, executed in Logic Pro X.

Last edited by Mark Hayes; 04/11/22 01:40 PM.
User Showcase
Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 3,589
J
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
J
Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 3,589
i liked the fx.
very interesting....

and ominous is the word i would use.

best
om


my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..)
https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs
(90 songs created useing bb/rb)
(lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)
User Showcase
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 24,292
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 24,292
Mark, you nailed the Distant Battlefield perfectly

Great sound effects

My thoughts went immediately to Ukraine

Super song

Last edited by MarioD; 04/11/22 12:39 PM.

Principal: Your child always causes trouble in school.
Me: My child causes trouble at home, do I ever call you?

64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
User Showcase
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 3,157
Veteran
Online Content
Veteran
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 3,157
Hello Mark,

Its ominous sound is immediately reminiscent of the battlefield.
Great sound effect.
I couldn't imagine how slow the tempo was.
Enjoyed my listen a lot.

Best regards.

Shigeki Adachi

User Showcase
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 7,199
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 7,199
How slow is it in BPMs?
I like the contrast of the thud crunch against the tinkling and the mid range flutey thing.
Boom crash.


Cheers
rayc
"What's so funny about peace, love & understanding?" - N.Lowe
User Showcase
Joined: Jun 2021
Posts: 1,689
Expert
OP Offline
Expert
Joined: Jun 2021
Posts: 1,689
Many thanks, OM, Mario, Shigeki, and Ray, for your kind words.

Regarding tempo:

I set it to 30 BPM then set the percentage to 1, meaning I should have had 0.3 BPM or over 3 minutes for a single beat. Rock and roll for the old folks! But obviously it isn't doing that, so I assume there's a secret threshold below which it doesn't apply the percentage. Logic says it's 30.

I also dropped the guitar an octave and played it backwards, which turned muted strums into rocket launches.

Last edited by Mark Hayes; 04/12/22 02:19 AM.
User Showcase
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 4,900
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 4,900
Yes, those scary things we hear so adequately portray the battlefield. SO much opposite of a lullaby designed to put children to sleep. Love the contrast, Marks. Very thought-provoking. How slow IS this? Cool idea, and now I too have to experiment. Thanks.


Enjoy whatever happens!
marty

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@babumusic51
SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/marty-straub
Band in a Box, Reaper, Cakewalk, Ozone 12, EZDrummer
User Showcase
Joined: Jun 2021
Posts: 1,689
Expert
OP Offline
Expert
Joined: Jun 2021
Posts: 1,689
Originally Posted By: BabuMusic
Yes, those scary things we hear so adequately portray the battlefield. SO much opposite of a lullaby designed to put children to sleep. Love the contrast, Mark. Very thought-provoking. How slow IS this? Cool idea, and now I too have to experiment. Thanks.

Thanks, Marty. It's 30 BPM.

Lullaby-wise: I picture a mother and her newborn baby, the mother is singing or playing along with the distant sounds of war, trying to comfort the baby, and it's actually working, for the moment: smiling baby eyes watch the flares of distant rockets, and it giggles with that kind of 4th of July "oooh!" happiness at the pretty lights, and mommy's voice and balalaika against the soft, cushiony explosions.

Last edited by Mark Hayes; 04/12/22 04:38 AM.
User Showcase
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,403
Expert
Offline
Expert
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,403
The Sound and the Fury... of war.


Bandcamp
Win-11; BiaB-2026 Audiophile (latest version)
Cakewalk Sonar; Melodyne-5; Scaler 3; NI Komplete:
Focusrite Scarlett 18i20



User Showcase
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 8,218
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 8,218
Cool track. Very ominous. You really nailed the vibe. Well done..


Scott Collingwood
https://soundcloud.com/scottt709
https://soundcloud.com/spiritlevel-ca
https://www.youtube.com/@SpiritLevel-ge3hm/
User Showcase
Joined: Jun 2021
Posts: 1,689
Expert
OP Offline
Expert
Joined: Jun 2021
Posts: 1,689
Originally Posted By: bloc-head
The Sound and the Fury... of war.

Originally Posted By: Scott C
Cool track. Very ominous. You really nailed the vibe. Well done..

As always, thanks for the listen and think.

Originally Posted By: Mark Hayes
Lullaby-wise: I picture a mother and her newborn baby, the mother is singing or playing along with the distant sounds of war, trying to comfort the baby, and it's actually working, for the moment: smiling baby eyes watch the flares of distant rockets, and it giggles with that kind of 4th of July "oooh!" happiness at the pretty lights, and mommy's voice and balalaika against the soft, cushiony explosions.

Which idea came from this old Gary Larson cartoon.

PS – I have made some small changes since first posting, hopefully for the better, and they are there to be heard.

Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in)
aaa.jpg (147.43 KB, 67 downloads)
Last edited by Mark Hayes; 04/13/22 07:56 AM.
User Showcase
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 8,143
Veteran
Online Content
Veteran
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 8,143
I remember reading somewhere that 30 BPM was pretty much the lower end of people being able to hear a tempo. And then immediately afterwards seeing an Adam Neely video refuting that laugh

I hate to use the word "interesting", but... interesting.


-- David Cuny

My virtual singer development blog
Vocal control, you say. Never heard of it. Is that some kind of ProTools thing?

BiaB 2025 | Windows 11 | Reaper | Way too many VSTis.
User Showcase
Joined: Jun 2021
Posts: 1,689
Expert
OP Offline
Expert
Joined: Jun 2021
Posts: 1,689
Originally Posted By: dcuny
I remember reading somewhere that 30 BPM was pretty much the lower end of people being able to hear a tempo.

There's that similar issue in singing, regarding who can sing the lowest note. An argument can be made that 0.189 Hz is not sound at all, but simply tissue flapping on a strict schedule.

Last edited by Mark Hayes; 04/14/22 07:00 AM.
User Showcase
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 4,067
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 4,067
Really makes one think of a battle field.
Interesting and cool stuff!

Rob and Anne-Marie


We are Rob Meulman and Anne-Marie Bovenkamp from The Netherlands.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1gsdNLE7_Gy8qavoOplQow/videos
http://rnam.net/


User Showcase
Joined: Jun 2021
Posts: 1,689
Expert
OP Offline
Expert
Joined: Jun 2021
Posts: 1,689
Originally Posted By: RnAM
Really makes one think of a battle field.
Interesting and cool stuff!

And a belated merci for your kind comment. Please do not doubt that I appreciate your listening a great deal.

Previous Thread
Next Thread
Go To

Link Copied to Clipboard
ChatPG

Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.

ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.

PG Music News
Band-in-a-Box 2026 for Windows Special Offers End Tomorrow (January 15th, 2026) at 11:59 PM PST!

Time really is running out! Save up to 50% on Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® upgrades and receive a FREE Bonus PAK—only when you order by 11:59 PM PST on Thursday, January 15, 2026!

We've added many major new features and new content in a redesigned Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®!

Version 2026 introduces a modernized GUI redesign across the program, with updated toolbars, refreshed windows, smoother workflows, and a new Dark Mode option. There’s also a new side toolbar for quicker access to commonly used windows, and the new Multi-View feature lets you arrange multiple windows as layered panels without overlap, making it easier to customize your workspace.

Another exciting new addition is the new AI-Notes feature, which can transcribe polyphonic audio into MIDI. You can view the results in notation or play them back as MIDI, and choose whether to process an entire track or focus on specific parts like drums, bass, guitars/piano, or vocals. There's over 100 new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®.

There's an amazing collection of new content too, including 202 RealTracks, new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two RealDrums Stems sets, XPro Styles PAK 10, Xtra Styles PAK 21, and much more!

Upgrade your Band-in-a-Box for Windows to save up to 50% on most Band-in-a-Box® 2026 upgrade packages!

Plus, when you order your Band-in-a-Box® 2026 upgrade during our special, you'll receive a Free Bonus PAK of exciting new add-ons.

If you need any help deciding which package is the best option for you, just let us know. We are here to help!

Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® Special Offers Extended Until January 15, 2026!

Good news! You still have time to upgrade to the latest version of Band-in-a-Box® for Windows® and save. Our Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® special now runs through January 15, 2025!

We've packed Band-in-a-Box® 2026 with major new features, enhancements, and an incredible lineup of new content! The program now sports a sleek, modern GUI redesign across the entire interface, including updated toolbars, refreshed windows, smoother workflows, a new dark mode option, and more. The brand-new side toolbar provides quicker access to key windows, while the new Multi-View feature lets you arrange multiple windows as layered panels without overlap, creating a flexible, clutter-free workspace. We have an amazing new “AI-Notes” feature. This transcribes polyphonic audio into MIDI so you can view it in notation or play it back as MIDI. You can process an entire track (all pitched instruments and drums) or focus on individual parts like drums, bass, guitars/piano, or vocals. There's an amazing collection of new content too, including 202 RealTracks, new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two RealDrums Stems sets, XPro Styles PAK 10, Xtra Styles PAK 21, and much more!

There are over 100 new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®.

When you order purchase Band-in-a-Box® 2026 before 11:59 PM PST on January 15th, you'll also receive a Free Bonus PAK packed with exciting new add-ons.

Upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® today! Check out the Band-in-a-Box® packages page for all the purchase options available.

Happy New Year!

Thank you for being part of the Band-in-a-Box® community.

Wishing you and yours a very happy 2026—Happy New Year from all of us at PG Music!

Season's Greetings!

Wishing everyone a happy, healthy holiday season—thanks for being part of our community!

The office will be closed for Christmas Day, but we will be back on Boxing Day (Dec 26th) at 6:00am PST.

Team PG

Band-in-a-Box 2026 Video: The Newly Designed Piano Roll Window

In this video, we explore the updated Piano Roll, complete with a modernized look and exciting new features. You’ll see new filtering options that make it easy to focus on specific note groups, smoother and more intuitive note entry and editing, and enhanced options for zooming, looping, and more.

Watch the video.

You can see all the 2026 videos on our forum!

Band-in-a-Box 2026 Video: AI Stems & Notes - split polyphonic audio into instruments and transcribe

This video demonstrates how to use the new AI-Notes feature together with the AI-Stems splitter, allowing you to select an audio file and have it separated into individual stems while transcribing each one to its own MIDI track. AI-Notes converts polyphonic audio—either full mixes or individual instruments—into MIDI that you can view in notation or play back instantly.

Watch the video.

You can see all the 2026 videos on our forum!

Bonus PAK and 49-PAK for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®

With your version 2026 for Windows Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons for FREE! Or upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!

These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!

This Free Bonus PAK includes:

  • The 2026 RealCombos Booster PAK: -For Pro customers, this includes 27 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles. -For MegaPAK customers, this includes 25 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles. -For UltraPAK customers, this includes 12 new RealStyles.
  • MIDI Styles Set 92: Look Ma! More MIDI 15: Latin Jazz
  • MIDI SuperTracks Set 46: Piano & Organ
  • Instrumental Studies Set 24: Groovin' Blues Soloing
  • Artist Performance Set 19: Songs with Vocals 9
  • Playable RealTracks Set 5
  • RealDrums Stems Set 9: Cool Brushes
  • SynthMaster Sounds Set 1 (with audio demos)
  • Android Band-in-a-Box® App (included)

Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:


  • 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyle.
  • FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
  • MIDI Styles Set 93: Look Ma! More MIDI 16: SynthMaster
  • MIDI SuperTracks Set 47: More SynthMaster
  • Instrumental Studies 25 - Soul Jazz Guitar Soloing
  • Artist Performance Set 20: Songs with Vocals 10
  • RealDrums Stems Set 10: Groovin' Sticks
  • SynthMaster Sounds & Styles Set 2 (sounds & styles with audio demos)

Learn more about the Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®!

Forum Statistics
Forums57
Topics85,754
Posts795,834
Members39,951
Most Online25,754
Jan 24th, 2025
Newest Members
Tigerlily, BB Wilbur, anonymously, TinaLBZ, Guitarzan26
39,951 Registered Users
Top Posters(30 Days)
MarioD 169
DC Ron 107
rsdean 105
dcuny 100
Noel96 100
DrDan 86
Today's Birthdays
There are no members with birthdays on this day.
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5