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I've been converting a load of files from 8 character file names to 'lon' file names.
There is a large bunch that when I click on convert, all it does is adds a second extension.
I have tried all sorts of things, renameing etc.
Any ideas?

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“Long” file names?

Could you tell us what program you are using to convert the names? If it’s Windows, please describe the steps. Thanks.


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The program is built into BIAB, it's under file, utils (I think), convert to long file names.

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Roy:

I put 2 files in a 'test' directory to play with.

One I named BMR1.sgu and the other I named BMR2.sgu

These were the actual file names on the hardrive. Both had 8.x filenames.

In BIAB, BMR1 I named "Beaumont Rag in C" and saved it, still as BMR1.sgu.

I then opened up BMR2 and named it BMR2 in BIAB.

See the screen shots.

I then used the utility to auto rename both of them to long files names.

The result was that BMR1.sgu was automatically named to "Beaumont Rag - Guitar - " but the other file, BMR2.sgu kept the same name "BMR2.sgu".

I believe in actuality that it was renamed since the utility grabs what is in the Title Box and changed the file name in the computer to match. Since BMR2 was what the 2nd file was named as in BIAB, the utility just renamed the 2nd file to BMR2.sgu again, since that was what it was named in the program.

All that being said, concerning the files that are NOT being renamed, do those have the names populated inside the BIAB program as what you want them to appear as after the utility is run?

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Yes I know all that.
I have about 500 files to rename with song title.
For example, it renames them from 2LATBABY.sgu to 2LATBABY.sgu.sgu

I have found if I open the file and re-save it, it works ok, its too many to open/save, is there a utility to open & save all files in a folder?

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Can you supply one of the files so others can test it?


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I do remember this problem from a long time ago and started looking in my collection of songs.

Just found something interesting. I have an old collection of jazz songs that have file dates of 1991, about 532 of them. All of them have double extensions. For example:

2LATBA~1.SG4.SG4
2_5_ON~1.SG1.SG1
4STRON~1.SGB.SGB
500MIL~1.SG4.SG4
502BLU~1.SG8.SG8
52NDST~1.SG1.SG1
AFROBL~1.SG8.SG8
AFTPAR~1.SG1.SG1
AF_FLO~1.SG1.SG1
AIREGI~1.SG1.SG1
ALEXRA~1.SG1.SG1
ALICEI~1.SG8.SG8
ALLBLU~1.SG8.SG8
ALLINL~1.SG9.SG9
ALLMYT~1.SG1.SG1
ALLOFY~1.SG1.SG1
ALLTHI~1.SG1.SG1
ALLTHI~2.SG1.SG1
ALOHA_~1.SG9.SG9
ALOMES~1.SG1.SG1
ALONET~1.SG1.SG1
ALONMI~1.SG9.SG9

I will play around with them to see if I can come up with something.


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I just renamed all of the files using Bulk Rename Utility to remove the double extension and the ~ from them so they looked like normal file names.

I made sure all of them have long file names in BIAB and ran the File Utility and ALL of them had added extensions to them.

For Example:

2LATBA1.SG4 is named 2-5-1 Progessions--All keys in BIAB and the File Rename utility changed it to 2LATBA1.SG4.SG4 instead of properly renaming it to 2-5-1 Progessions--All keys.sg4 on the hard drive.

Something is truly amiss here at my end also.

I would attach the song file but BIAB will not let me upload a song file. Only lets me upload a graphics file. Tried to rename the extension to make it appear as a graphics file but BIAB rejected it.

Any ideas on how to make the song file available for others to test?


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Reply to a post and use the File Manager. It doesn't look like it, but it's a link if you hover. Find it at the top of the Post Options, just below the area where you type a post.

I think one of you should contact PG Music Support directly, and reference this thread.


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Originally Posted By: MoultiPass


Not sure if that program will extract the embedded song name from within the BIAB song and transfer it to the filename or not.


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Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
Reply to a post and use the File Manager, lower left area.

I think one of you should contact PG Music Support directly, and reference this thread.


Did that but evidently the forum program is looking at the file to make sure it is indeed a graphic. Tried renaming the extension to gif, jpg and tif and even zip, but it rejected it each time.


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Originally Posted By: Roycol
Yes I know all that.
I have about 500 files to rename with song title.
For example, it renames them from 2LATBABY.sgu to 2LATBABY.sgu.sgu

I have found if I open the file and re-save it, it works ok, its too many to open/save, is there a utility to open & save all files in a folder?

Roy


I just renamed my test file like you did earlier and the File Rename did change that one correctly.

But like you stated, saving 500+ files, one at a time, is not something I am willing to do.

Let's see if someone else can come up with a solution.


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If it's the extension being blocked, call it .txt and just tell people to rename the file.


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Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
If it's the extension being blocked, call it .txt and just tell people to rename the file.


Done this before many times but the forum keeps rejecting this file. Tried renaming it using a .txt extension but it keeps getting rejected.



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That's a puzzle. Another reason to report this to Support. Sorry.


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I put a bunch of the songs I have on Dropbox.

If anyone wants to take a stab at being able to rename these using the File Rename utility, here is the link:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/chphaspwz3maqid/AACjFRsyhBFQLgYQ1HCsibyoa?dl=0

I will keep them up for a week.


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I was just corrected by another long-time poster who told me that the text extension tip I gave above, now does not work.


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Try using an MP4 extension ..
maybe that will work.
I seem to recall Pipeline getting away with it.


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PG Music should look into the upload scenario.

How are we to help fix their problems if we can't upload files to test.

But back to the original problem that Roycol is having that I was able to duplicate.....


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