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I have premade wave stem files that I am using to import into BIAB. And then I'm using BIAB to enter the chords and lyrics and create a lyric video. I import all 9 files into the utility tracks and they play just fine but then I can't line them up with the bars in BIAB because the only way to do this is if all the tracks are on one file. I did this and that's fine but what happens if one instrument is too loud. Now I can't use the mixer window to adjust my mix as needed. I have to go back into another program and combine all the wave files into one file again and import that mix into one track in BIAB.

It would be so nice to have the barline changes apply to all the other utility tracks. This way I can keep each instrument in it's own track rather than have to put them all together first before I import the audio file. Thanks. smile

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This makes sense, both the request and your understanding of the process. I would have done the mixing in a DAW and brought one track into BIAB, as you are aware, but you are correct that sometimes you just need to tweak a track based on new changes. It would indeed be nice to be able to do that within BIAB without using the audio editing tools.

This is an area of which I believe the developers are aware. The many Utility Tracks were just added, and the concept is for 'all tracks to be equal', but we have had many discussions on how to do that. The F5 bar settings dialog would need to be far larger and tracks use some new numbering system. Or we would need volume automation and a MIDI control surface to ride faders. The basic problem I see is created by feature creep, where the new features are causing reevaluation of the original way legacy tracks were handled. It is my hope that requests like yours, and all the other discussions we have had about this concept, will result in a different way of handling all the tracks in BIAB 2023.


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<< I have premade wave stem files that I am using to import into BIAB. And then I'm using BIAB to enter the chords and lyrics and create a lyric video. I import all 9 files into the utility tracks ... I can't line them up with the bars in BIAB because the only way to do this is if all the tracks are on one file. >>

BIAB has the option to align individual audio files imported into the Audio Track and all 16 Utility Tracks.

In your example, you should import the stems into Utility Tracks 1-9 and from the Audio Editor;
Place the curser at Bar one of the audio file
Right Click anywhere in the Wave Form Window and select "make this point as Bar 1 of the song .." option

Repeat for each of the other 8 imported audio files and this aligns each track's bar 1 to Bar 1 of the BIAB Chord Chart

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Ok. I figured it out! It's a little weird and maybe the developers can work on this for the next update. smile

1. Load up all the stems in cakewalk or whatever daw you have.
2. Combine all of the stems in the daw to create one wave file for reference. It can have the click tracks and cue tracks. It doesn’t matter. You’re going to delete it afterward.
3. Open up a new BIAB file and set the tempo as close as possible to the song.
4. Import the wave file you just made in your DAW to the Audio Track in BIAB.
5. Then go the audio view and go through the ACW mode just to add the barlines while you listen to the song. After you enter the barlines. DO NOT DO ANYTHING ELSE. Do not equalize the temo
6. After your barlines have been entered, right click on the audio track and go to track actions and delete track. This will delete all the audio in that track but it will still keep the barline changes you just made and it will enable you to add other audio in the utility tracks.
7. Now all you have to do is add the individual stems in each of the utility tracks.
8. Now you have a chord sheet that matches all of the individual audio files so you can transpose the song, make a video, enter lyrics, and most importantly be able to mix the volumes on each of the tracks as needed.


Ok. I take that back. I'm still having trouble getting the barlines to match up with the multiple wave files that I've imported to the song. I need the barlines to match with all of the tracks because I'm exporting a video with lyrics. The manual bar lines that I am entering are only affecting the Audio track and not the other utility tracks. I tried this many times today and it just doesn't work. I can't just set the start of my song at a certain point and set the tempo because the song changes tempo slightly throughout so I have to enter the bar lines manually which is fine but it just sucks that the bar line changes do not effect the other tracks. I've been at this for about 4 hours today so I'm going to take a break. smirk

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Thank you. That helped!

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Ok. I take that back. I'm still having trouble getting the barlines to match up with the multiple wave files that I've imported to the song. I need the barlines to match with all of the tracks because I'm exporting a video with lyrics. The manual bar lines that I am entering are only affecting the Audio track and not the other utility tracks. I tried this many times today and it just doesn't work. I can't just set the start of my song at a certain point and set the tempo because the song changes tempo slightly throughout so I have to enter the bar lines manually which is fine but it just sucks that the bar line changes do not effect the other tracks. I've been at this for about 4 hours today so I'm going to take a break. smile

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Thank you Matt. I appreciate you guys looking into this.

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I'm still having trouble getting the barlines to match up with the multiple wave files that I've imported to the song.


Yes. The technique I described relies on a constant tempo in which case the ACW is not necessary. If the tempo isn't constant, use the ACW to create a tempo map of the song. There's only one tempo map so only one track has to be analyzed to create a tempo map. Once that's done, all tracks will track the tempo BIAB is reading.

Multiple tracks imported will also have to be synced to bar 1.


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