Gordon.
one reason i love refurbs soooo much is...if one buys from the right company the refurb comes already OPTIMISED,... boots fast from cold (mine boots into win in a few secs), and comes already free of junk/bloat...with lots of ports (eg usb)

ive yet to have even one problem over many many years useing refurbs. nada , zilch probs.
crikey , my refurb company i deal with, pre-covid and even let me test a refurb with my music software.
and i just point my refurber to various pc optimisation sites.

heres another optimisation site ..with vid.
https://audient.com/tutorial/optimise-your-windows-pc-for-audio/

right now there are a slew of i5/i7 refurbs on the market that come with 1 year warranties, are optimised, and even often include ssd..and support added ssd's.for less than a couple hundred bucks. if someone doesnt want to do a zillion traks with zillion plug ins.

frankly if i were looking at pricey i9 retail pc prices ,
and couldnt diy a pc build i would spend under 2k with a company that specialises in building pc's for recording studios. eg a adk pro audio or studiocat or silent pc...and there are many others.

now i'm gonna listen to some songs in the showcase cos , phew...i'm free of family commitments today...lol

Last edited by justanoldmuso; 07/15/22 08:59 AM.
my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..)
https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs
(90 songs created useing bb/rb)
(lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)