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According to the UN High Commission for Human Rights, the “Caesar with no shirt” (thank you for this name jannesan) and his naked aggression has resulted in 10,403 Ukraine civilian casualties between February 24, 2022 and June 21, 2022. During this period, 4,634 people were killed, including 1,780 men, 1,194 women, 131 girls, 148 boys, as well as 41 children and another 1,340 adults whose sex is unknown. According to Wikipedia, Around 7.1 million refugees fleeing Ukraine have been recorded across Europe, while an estimated 8 million people had been displaced within the country by 3 May. InterpretationThis is a ballad of solidarity. The into begins with destruction and pain; ominous synth and low-register brass The verses offer a glimpse of hope and resistance; guitar pad The chorus and bridge reminds us that the Russian bear is never too far away; ominous synth The outro speaks to resilience, resistance and final victory; uplifting synth and trumpets My goal is that someone from Ukraine who somehow may listen to this, would understand this message of empathy, hope and solidarity despite cultural and spoken language differences. Ukraine! We Stand By You BiaBPIANOLN.STY (Piano Lane Visceral Pop Ballad) 65 BPM Drums, Synth Pad and Cello My Friend MartyPiano 1 Piano 2 MeBass Guitar Korg Voices 1. Ominous Synth 2. Low-Register Brass 3. Glittering Synth 4. Victorious Trumpets There was an Asus to A discussion here not long ago. It was in regards to this song. Hopefully you can hear the tension and release. Comments good or bad are welcome. Thanks for listening if you do.
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Hi Bass Thumper
Just like you, I feel close to the Ukrainians and their misfortune. Your music translates well the words you wrote. It's very gripping music. Well done.
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A lot to take in here musically. I think most of it worked well for me. There was a noise at 1:55 and elsewhere that seemed to not fit to my ears, but it was short and hardly worth mentioning. Overall, I think you did a fine job, it's amazing what BIAB can do in the hands of mere musical mortals such as you and me.
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Hi Bass Thumper
Just like you, I feel close to the Ukrainians and their misfortune. Your music translates well the words you wrote. It's very gripping music. Well done.
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alias JaniJackFlash Many thanks, Derochette. I'm glad that most of the world is standing with Ukraine. And I'm looking forward to their ultimate victory and after that, full NATO membership.
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A lot to take in here musically. I think most of it worked well for me. There was a noise at 1:55 and elsewhere that seemed to not fit to my ears, but it was short and hardly worth mentioning. Overall, I think you did a fine job, it's amazing what BIAB can do in the hands of mere musical mortals such as you and me. Thanks for the listen TuneMonger. I think the "noise" you are hearing is my intentional attempt at producing [Russian] bear growls. These happen around 1:50, 1:57, 2:41, 2:49, and 3:42. These are broadly described in the Interpretation at the top of this thread. Headphones or earbuds may make this more clear. I'm curious what others hear at these time points. Should I have boosted the volume to make them more clear?
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It's sad but necessary that we have to make these songs of solidarity, and I'm glad that your music speaks for freedom, independence and right to protest. Very good change of moods from dark to light. Beautiful melody. Really liked the orchestration and the cello.
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It's sad but necessary that we have to make these songs of solidarity, and I'm glad that your music speaks for freedom, independence and right to protest. Very good change of moods from dark to light. Beautiful melody. Really liked the orchestration and the cello.
Janne +1 And we must keep the faith. The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice.Martin Luther King Jr. But unfortunately, during this "long arc" there is untold and preventable pain. Hopefully freedom loving people around the world will help to shorten the length of this arc as much as possible so that Ukraine can purse it's right to happiness and freedom.
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Generally a pleasant bit of music.
The "growls" don't work for me - they sound too much like a mistake rather that intentional.
I don't know that someone will necessarily understand the song without reading the context. As Ukraine is currently engaged in a war, it seems odd to represent the two forces with a mellow guitar-backed melody vs. some ominous - but distant - synths.
If this were meant to represent a prelude to a conflict, I think it would work. But that's just me.
I find the lead synth "pops" quite a bit, and doesn't sit well in the mix. Add a wide stereo separation to that, and towards the end got a bit... well, irritating to my ears.
Still, a nice bit of music.
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Generally a pleasant bit of music.
The "growls" don't work for me - they sound too much like a mistake rather that intentional.
OK, the growls don't work for everyone, I get it, thanks for the feedback. I do know that somebody could make this work. My music/mixing skills obviously are not up to the task. Sorry . . .
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TuneMonger, David and others, I'm curious about your thoughts regarding a real grizzly bear growl vs the simulated representation of one that we used. And whether you think one would work better than the other. It never occurred to us to use a real growl in our song. Here is a 53 second comparison between the two. Real vs Simulated Grizzly Bear Growl I'm thinking that the simulated representation works better musically but perhaps we used too much artistic liberty?
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At first I thought the real bear growl was the perfect answer. But listening to the sample, I'm not so sure. I think you're right, somebody could make this work, and that somebody is probably someone who does a lot of sound design work who could shape a real bear growl to sound good in your musical piece. The sample you put on SC seems too brief for me. I would think the growl should be more sustained. I found quite a few on youtube that might get you closer. The third growl on this vid I liked: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iqOk2L3N5YGood luck, I hope you get the result you're looking for. TM
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Oh, I'm with ya on this one, BT. A really good composition. Well played and produced. Yes, the growl is a bit distracting. I like your intention with it, and the symbolism. Not sure why, but when I tried playing the samples, there was no sound. Either way, I like TuneMonger's suggestion for a solution. Now, enough about the Russian bears, and back to the song. I really like how you did it.
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Bravo, Mr. Thumper!
You've capture musically what you articulated in you post.
The resolution works quite well and evokes a sense of victory and a catharsis.
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Not sure why, but when I tried playing the samples, there was no sound. This is really interesting. When you play the sample "there was no sound". And yet I and others seem to hear it fine. I'm wondering if this is an imagination/symbolism thing. I realize that the synth doesn't really sound like a true bear. Rather it is intended to evoke foreboding and doom. Or I'm wondering if this is more of a sonic thing involving the frequency response of the speakers, headphones or earbuds you are using ? Perplexing . . . some seem to hear it fine while others do not.
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Bravo, Mr. Thumper!
You've capture musically what you articulated in you post.
The resolution works quite well and evokes a sense of victory and a catharsis. Thanks Storm, You, me, my collaborator, our wives and others hear what is intended, yet others do not. I find this mystery perplexing.
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Hey this sounds really cool! Very touching and beautiful! 
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Bass Thumper this is your best to date even though I did not care for the growls.
Super chord progression and instrumentation.
A great mix also.
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Hey this sounds really cool! Very touching and beautiful! Thanks David, you and some others apparently get what we're trying to communicate but others don't which is fascinating to me. I came across a paragraph in my "newbies book" that might explain some of what's going on. "You hear sounds because air vibrates against your eardrums, causing them to vibrate. These vibrations are then analyzed by your brain and registered as music, traffic, birds singing - whatever. Because sound waves are picked up by each unique eardrum and dissected by each unique brain, chances are that nobody hears the same sound exactly the same as anybody else."A little more backstory on this song: I am actually not that pleased with it myself; but not because of the growls. Some disagree, but I think the growls work. I think you get that I'm not trying to produce sound-effects for a documentary on grizzly bears. If there is a term for symbolically representing a sound with another sound I don't know what it is. Sound symbolism?? Creative embellishment?? Anyway, what I don't like about it is to my eardrums and brain, there are places that feel out of time, forced or strained, as opposed to smooth and free flowing. It's either my bass playing or Marty's piano work because BiaB I'm sure is consistent. But the funny thing (again) is that Marty doesn't hear this out-of-timeness. He thinks it's rock-steady and smooth Go figure.
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Bass Thumper this is your best to date even though I did not care for the growls.
Appreciate the kind words Mario. Regarding the growls, I wonder if there is a sonic equivalent to this illusion. An Illusion? PS> I see turquoise and gold PPS> I think you mean "If" in your new signature.
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For us you accomplished your goal. The sporadic interruptions of the lighter and lovely music by the dark and ominous undertones made us think of how one can be going about your day happily and suddenly something reminds you of the ever present problem that is always just over there…waiting.
And surely every citizen of Ukraine experiences this all too frequently.
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