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Anyone know how to directly drag & drop a BIAB track into Studio One?
I'm testing Studio One 6, comparing it to Cubase, and like what I see. BUT when I drag an instrument from BIAB into Studio One it makes the render but then Studio One says "can't find the file." In Cubase it has always worked automatically. I tried changing the default BB drop folder, but this made no difference. Is this a Studio One or a BB issue? (I assume Studio One since it works in Cubase) It means you would have to drag the track into a folder and then drag from the folder into Studio One. Too much time for a program that brags about its great drag & drop abilities.
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I use the Band in a box VST3 plugin. I just tried it and it worked fine.
Steps in Studio One:
Create in Studio One a "new Record and Mix"
Click Instruments then PGMusic
Drag BIAB DAW Vst3 onto timeline
Click Find and locate your saved song
Open
Generate
Drag "All" button onto your Studio One onto your timeline
Not sure if your way will work.
...Deb
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Thanks Deb,
The method you describe works, but way too slow compared to what Cubase does instantly.
1) With Cubase, and BIAB open at the same time, you drag the name of any track from BIAB into the Cubase timeline. No need for the VST. It prints the track (already rendered) into the Cubase project, ready to be moved around and further altered or mixed. You can choose only what tracks you want, or all of them. The main BIAB program renders tracks quicker than the VST plugin, so you can experiment, change, and re-render faster in the main program than you can in the VST.
2) If you involve the VST you have to re-open the BIAB file and have it re-render each track (quite slow). So, you really waited and rendered them twice for no good reason.
3) I like to get each track perfect in the main BIAB program using the F8 key (multi riff) by listening to each track and selecting any bar I don’t like, then hit F8 and it will render just that one bar, in a second or two, as many times as I like, until I accept the one that sounds best. That way each track is perfect, and frozen, and I can just drag the whole perfect track into Cubase. The VST doesn’t (yet) have this important F8 feature.
4) I would be interested to know if you try this method on your system (directly drag the name of an instrument of a BIAB track – the leftmost name in the mixer) directly into Studio One and see if you get the same message I do (“cannot find file”)
5) There should be a way to get Studio One to directly receive the BIAB track in the same way that Cubase does.
6) An intermediate method, faster than using the VST, is to drag a BIAB track into a folder and then drag from that folder into the timeline of Studio One. This works on my system, but, of course, is slower than directly dragging into Cubase, although still faster than the VST plugin.
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I have the same problem with Studio One Pro 5. A solution is to drag the track(s) to the wav/mp3/midi etc window in the DAW mode window, go to DAW mode, then drag from the + in the DAW window to Studio One Pro.
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Thank You, MarioD,
I tried it and that method works! It is one keystroke more than dragging into Cubase, which can receive the drag directly, but still quite good. I can't seem to use it to drag multiple tracks (can you?) I suppose if there are a lot of tracks it may be quicker to use the Wav function in the upper right and export all the tracks (without mixdown) and then drag all at once from the folder into Studio One, which works to receive multiple drags from a folder.
(So, being able to use Studio One with BIAB I think the program is finally good enough to switch from Cubase. Although it is missing a few things that Cubase can do, there are plenty of other things that it does more efficiently.)
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If you want to transfer all of your tracks to Studio One Pro then just drag and drop the master to the wav/mp3/midi/etc DAW mode window then drag and drop the + into your DAW.
If you want to drag and drop only a certain number of tracks to your DAW then drag and drop the tracks individually into the DAW mode then drag and drop the + into Studio One Pro.
I hope this helps.
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Thanks again MarioD,
Yes, I see I can drag the master, but that gives a mix, which I almost never want, since the whole purpose is to remix in Studio One. What I like is each track separate, but preferably in one batch drag and drop. I think I will use your method when I want one or two tracks, or when I add an additional real track player to an existing song, or update a track which I re-rendered. But when I want a whole song with separate tracks the best method seems to be the wav button in the upper right, and keep the destination folder always open on the desktop. That is pretty much the same as using the DAW function in the upper left. From that folder you can grab all the tracks and in one drag they go into separate tracks in Studio One, which I just tried. I realize now that using a dedicated folder, specified in BIAB preferences, is better if you often update tracks and make improvements because you can control the deletion of tracks no longer needed, which saves space on my file system. I also just set up a batch renamer protocol in my file renamer program so that I don't get the long filenames in the Studio One tracks.
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3) I like to get each track perfect in the main BIAB program using the F8 key (multi riff) by listening to each track and selecting any bar I don’t like, then hit F8 and it will render just that one bar, in a second or two, as many times as I like, until I accept the one that sounds best. That way each track is perfect, and frozen, and I can just drag the whole perfect track into Cubase. The VST doesn’t (yet) have this important F8 feature.
I think we should not use BIAB VST. I also used the BIAB VST version at first, but now I don't use it anymore. I think the more important responsibility of BIAB VST is to publicize and attract more people to buy BIAB through the VST concept. In the future, BIAB VST will become more and more perfect. However, I think it is better to use the BIAB standalone version directly.
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Yes, Swingbaby, as discussed in another thread, the vst plugin is just too slow and limited compared to having the DAW and main BIAB open in two different windows. Experts have said that the render process in the plugin actually has to draw upon the main program in the background, so it takes more time to do what we can do ourselves in another window with the main program, and drag & drop is all we have to do to replicate what the VST does in any case, but with more features available like multi-riff.
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multi-riff. yes.
In fact, I will not open BIAB VST in DAW.
I'm using VST standalone.
This is my habit.
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