I just spent some time looking at photo accounts from the west side. Wow. Water at shoulder level in some places. 2 million without power. Boats everywhere. Small planes turned over on top of other planes. I have checked in on some cousins I have in the Tampa area and waiting to hear back.
I’ve heard from a friend and forum member in the Tampa area and they are relatively OK. The revers surge actually drained the bay rather than flooding it based on wind direction.
Still waiting to hear from a friend and forum member near Naples where there was a massive record breaking surge.
Edit: Just heard from him and only light damage. Great!
Again best to them and all who are affected.
Bud
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Eye has officially moved into the Atlantic ocean. They are anticipating the storm to change back to a hurricane soon. East coast of Florida still in for hours of rain.
Sanibel Island on the west coast, off Ft. Myers.... the hurricane destroyed the highway going through the island. It's amazing to see how easily it lifted 6 inch thick chunks of pavement and just tossed them about like nothing. For residents there, it appears that boats will be the only way in and out for a while.
[list] [*]Paint our roofs white. That would reflect more than seeding the clouds would do, but nobody seems to care (I did mine)
Based on my observations, industry and world governments got us into this warming mess and they will have to get us out of it. Individual citizen efforts are worthy but we need much more than that to fix this problem. I'm not proposing seeding the clouds, but I am suggesting the US and other countries research the delivery of suspended, reflecting particles into the strastosphere, far above the clouds to cool the planet, similar to that caused by some volcanic eruptions. Are there downside risks to geo-engineering? You bet, a possible reduction in agricultural output is one. But look at what's happening around the planet. If we think things are bad now, wait until positive feedback loops begin to kick in.
BTW, I have a sister in Tampa and she reports rain and wind but no power outages or massive flooding. She expects to be back to work tomorrow. Fort Myers is another story.
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Just a quick note. Running on generator power. 140 MPH wind at the ranch. All the cows survived. Next ranch over lost many cows. Roof is messed up but I got it covered. Things are under control at the ranch. Ranch forman is stuck there because of continuing rising water. I can not get back to the ranch due to rising water and road closures.
The rising water from the run off is flooding houses near me and will continue for at least two or three days. The hurricane damage is far from over.
People are still drowning in their houses as of 10/1/2022.
The power may not be back on for days or possibly weeks. Pumping well water with generators.
The good news is none of my people have gotten killed.
Thousands of people are displaced and that is not limited to the coastal areas. The flooding is intense in the center of the state and rising as we speak.
Limited fuel, cash only, limited supplies of all types. Water is very difficult or impossible to find around here due to the inability to re-supply by truck.
My UPS does not like my generator...lol
We will do what we can to help others around us who are in worse condition than us.
Billy
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The good news is none of my people have gotten killed. Billy
NBC News is reporting at least 34 storm related deaths and a hospital in Ft Myers is facing a sanitation crisis due to no running water.
Billy, we're wishing you and all Floridians the best . . . stay safe.
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Glad you and your people are OK, Billy.
We lucked out here. I'm on high ground, so I didn't get any flooding, miraculously, my power never went off, and zero damage to my house.
Clean-up is almost done. Hundreds of palm fronds, and small tree branches to pick up pile for the county trash pickup. Plus storm awnings up, storm shutters down, and neighbors all checked on. Everyone else on my little dead-end street is OK.
So it's time to donate some blood and send a check to the Red Cross.
Thanks for the updates Billy & Notes. We have been closely watching the situation and fully understand the devastation that has been caused. Glad you are all safe.
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The power just came back on at the new house here in Sebring. Most of the business area is still out of power. We are glad to have the AC and hot water heater working but I feel for the people who can not open their stores.
Still no power at the ranch. The road is still closed. I can get there (I think) by driving an extra 150 miles.
My neighbors near the ranch came over today with three more chainsaws and have cut most of the trees out of the fence that is down. That is one of the benefits of living in the country.
Many people are still in shock. This may well be the most devastating and costly hurricane in US history.
I have been through several but I never saw anything like this. Even Andrew was not this bad because it was confined to a pretty small area.
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Hurricane Andrew damage About 49,000 homes were destroyed and 108,000 were damaged, according to the National Weather Service. More than a million people were left without power. Thousands were homeless. Andrew caused a then-record $26.5 billion in damage, the Miami Herald reported on Andrew's 25th anniversary.Aug 26, 2022
Tens of thousands of people in Florida are struggling with the devastation left behind by Hurricane Ian, one of the largest disasters to ever hit the state.
Total fatalities currently are 83 and are expected to grow
2.6 million without power
300-mile path of destruction
Orlando underwater, Arcida underwater, flood waters rising 3 days after the storm.
Andrew was a disaster of epic preparations but Ian has caused greater damage to Florida and may well be the most costly storm in US history in modern times.
Other hurricanes have had stronger winds. Other storms have killed more people. Few if any have had the geographic distribution of IAN.
Billy
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Donna wiped out Fort Myers Beach and had a storm surge so great that you couldn't go near the Everglades for weeks because of the stench of all the animals it killed. It was also wiped out by 3 other storms since then (including Ian).
Each hurricane in Florida gets worse because of the population growth. So the deaths and property destruction is proportional. Before Central AC, not many people wanted to live down here.
The population in the city limits of Pompano Beach, FL when I was fewer than 2,000. Now it's almost 115,000. Plus, there are scores of new cities that weren't there, and the 'wild' areas of Broward County are now all housing developments.
I was in the eye wall of either Frances or Jeanne for over 12 hours as it stalled and slowly turned to the North. The barrier islands here took a big hit.
The worst hurricane on record is the one that affects you, personally, the worst.
Looking back is important but I'd say looking forward is more so.
Is anyone seriously discussing how Florida (and other States for that matter) can harden themselves against future storms?
The photo below seems to indicate a business as usual approach of continuing to string power lines overhead instead of underground.
Similar question for strengthening building codes particularly for relatively flimsy manufactured homes and flood protections.
Or are elected officials thinking this will be the last Cat 4 storm that rolls in off the coast?
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What people don't realize or care much about is the fact that we are moving food and water by small boat near the ranch due to flooding on the river here today. We don't depend on the state to do anything. We take care of the people around us.
Why would I build a hurricane-proof house on the beach when I can get the rest of the people who live inland to pay to fix things after a hurricane? Do you think your homeowner's insurance will be the same price next year?
We have come to demand cradle-to-grave protection from the government and refuse to take responsibility for ourselves.
The good news...except for having to provide my own electrical power, I am pretty much back to normal.
Best wishes to everyone who is still suffering from this storm.
Billy
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Many of those still suffering are elderly and/or with minimal resources and hope. As we all assuredly know there's another world out there of people living on the margin and I doubt that they are particularly interested at this moment in where help might come from ... just bring it on. So reiterating my thoughts when I initiated this thread I wish all the best -- to those who lost all and those who are going through extremely tough times yet can see recovery down the pike.
I reflect on the thousands of workers needed to keep the condos going, gas station workers, grocery store employees and on and on. Many likely lost their homes and jobs.
As Notes mentioned it's a good time to consider donating and the Red Cross, as he mentioned, is always, IMHO, a fine and well vetted option.
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I will say that FPL hardened their infrastructure over the last several years such that no FPL Owned distribution equipment suffered damage from Ian. In less than a week they had restored almost 98% of their customers. There are a few hundred utility companies in Florida, though, so obviously everyone is not so lucky. But they all cooperate when it comes to storm restoration. About 65000 people staged and ready before the storm landed. Underground utilities are fine, but you still have to have substations and distribution centers that cannot be buried and that is where the money goes to harden the system. 200mph poles for the major distribution, smart metering so outages can be pinpointed immediately. The goal of course is to restore as many as possible as fast as possible, and certain distribution gets priority, hospital zones, etc.
Caveat, I work in the electric utility industry.
My wife asked if I had seen the dog bowl. I told her I didn't even know he could.
Not too long ago, FPL buzzed the lines with a drone, and sent out tree trimming contractors to trim the limbs that might take the power lines down during a storm. The crew that trimmed the trees on my lot were friendly courteous, professional, and they trimmed the problem branches without butchering the trees.
I've also noticed a lot of wood poles along the Indian River Lagoon being replaced with concrete poles. I'm sure the concrete poles stand up to the wind better.
It seems the hard work and care paid off. We didn't even lose power in this storm, although we didn't get the most intense winds either.
I know when those meters aren't spinning, you aren't making any money, and we are spending money feeding a gas generator, so it was a win-win endeavor.
Duke Energy services my area up here. They did a good job of restoring power for me in several locations. The ranch in Arcadia got hit hard and we had power back in 5 or 6 days. 4 or 5 days here in Sebring. One of the houses on the ranch, where the foreman lives got messed up pretty badly. The one I live in had very little damage. We think we had wind gusts up around 140 MPH.
Hospitals, police, fire and emergency facilities, water and sanitary authorities, nursing homes and assisted living facilities, etc should and do come first to get power restored.
The next step is to restore power to the largest amount of people. In other words, if 200 thousand people have lost power due to a few simple faults, the power companies will go there first. This is logical for both the power company and the client.
It is obviously heartbreaking to see people's homes destroyed in hurricanes and forest fires. I also think people should be able to build wherever they want to. I don't think the rest of us should have to pay to have their property repaired or risk our lives to rescue them when they were told to evacuate. And obviously, there are exceptions to everything.
This is sort of like the people who buy a house near the end of an airport runway and then try their best to stop the aircraft noise.
People should be prepared for hurricanes who live where they occur. What irritates me is people calling FEMA on their $1300 cell phones asking for a generator who have been living in a hurricane/flood zone for years.
We are pretty well prepared with several generators, a well, a septic system, fuel/drinking water, and enough food to feed us and all our neighbors. Plus I really can shoot deer off the front porch but I would have to be starving to do that. I just don't like killing animals. I can if I need to and every year around Thanksgiving I kill a pig and roast it. Even that is beginning to make me feel a bit uncomfortable.
Even now we are still helping the people who live around us...that's just what ranchers and country people do, even in today's world.
The roofers are working near me and the Tejana music is alive and well.
Billy
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