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Trying to add Kontakt7 to DAW [Resolved] #733989 10/07/22 08:40 PM Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Jan 2017 Posts: 844 Queensland, Australia mkg50 (Mike G) OP Expert
OP mkg50 (Mike G) Expert Joined: Jan 2017 Posts: 844 Queensland, Australia	I've just downloaded and installed Kontakt 7 without any problems. But when I try to add VSTi (in RealBand or any DAW) I can't find the dll location. I assumed it would be in C:\Program Files\Native Instruments\VSTPlugins 64 bit where Kontakt 5 and Kontak6 DLLs are. But it's not. Can anyone help? Cheers, Mike PS Kontakt 7 is visible and seems to work fine as a standalone. Last edited by mkg50 (Mike G); 10/07/22 08:51 PM. Mike Garry BIAB 2025/RealBand (5), UltraPak, Kontakt, EZmix, Ozone 9 Elements, Audacity, MSi PC, Windows 11, 64bit, 16GB ram, CPU: Intel i7. https://soundcloud.com/user-952388172

Re: Trying to add Kontakt7 to DAW MoultiPass #733992 10/07/22 10:48 PM Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Jan 2017 Posts: 844 Queensland, Australia mkg50 (Mike G) OP Expert
OP mkg50 (Mike G) Expert Joined: Jan 2017 Posts: 844 Queensland, Australia	Originally Posted By: MoultiPass Kontakt 7 : VST3 only. Extension is ".vst3", no "Dll" Works in Biab under Komplete Kontrol for me. Thanks Moultipass. So how do I connect Kontakt 7 to RealBand? Mike Garry BIAB 2025/RealBand (5), UltraPak, Kontakt, EZmix, Ozone 9 Elements, Audacity, MSi PC, Windows 11, 64bit, 16GB ram, CPU: Intel i7. https://soundcloud.com/user-952388172

Re: Trying to add Kontakt7 to DAW MoultiPass #734002 10/08/22 02:25 AM Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Jan 2017 Posts: 844 Queensland, Australia mkg50 (Mike G) OP Expert
OP mkg50 (Mike G) Expert Joined: Jan 2017 Posts: 844 Queensland, Australia	I don't have Komplete. Does RealBand not accept VST3? Mike Garry BIAB 2025/RealBand (5), UltraPak, Kontakt, EZmix, Ozone 9 Elements, Audacity, MSi PC, Windows 11, 64bit, 16GB ram, CPU: Intel i7. https://soundcloud.com/user-952388172

Re: Trying to add Kontakt7 to DAW mkg50 (Mike G) #734016 10/08/22 03:29 AM Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 10,821 Middlesex, NC Guitarhacker Veteran
Guitarhacker Veteran Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 10,821 Middlesex, NC	When you install the Kontakt synth.... be sure to note where it installs. You can direct it to any location on the computer or let it choose it's own place. Either way, you should know where it went. In Sonar, one has to add it's location, if it's not installed in the main DLL directory, to the list of locations that are in the Sonar plug in manager scan list. Then one must instruct Sonar to RESCAN the list so it now picks up the new synth you added. At this point it becomes available to use in the DAW. I never use synths in BB/RB other than the default TTS so I really can't speak to the process in the PG software. You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.com Add nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.

Re: Trying to add Kontakt7 to DAW MoultiPass #734059 10/08/22 07:18 AM Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Jan 2020 Posts: 3,638 J justanoldmuso Veteran
justanoldmuso Veteran J Joined: Jan 2020 Posts: 3,638	correct me if i'm wrong but didnt the free product ELEMENT host vst 3 plug ins ? for daws that dont have vst 3 support per user >> the brilliant pipeline awhile back ?? i'll see if i can find it. ok i think this might be usefull ?? https://www.native-instruments.com/forum/threads/vst3-on-all-native-instrument-software.418693/ and this ?? https://kushview.net/element/ best om Last edited by justanoldmuso; 10/08/22 07:25 AM. my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs (90 songs created useing bb/rb) (lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)

Re: Trying to add Kontakt7 to DAW mkg50 (Mike G) #734072 10/08/22 10:32 AM Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 2,145 Essex England Bob Calver Veteran
Bob Calver Veteran Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 2,145 Essex England	Element works in RB and allows vst3 plugins - follow the kushview link above. you load elemnt then load plugins inside it

Re: Trying to add Kontakt7 to DAW mkg50 (Mike G) #734091 10/08/22 08:46 PM Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Jan 2017 Posts: 844 Queensland, Australia mkg50 (Mike G) OP Expert
OP mkg50 (Mike G) Expert Joined: Jan 2017 Posts: 844 Queensland, Australia	Thanks Moultipass, Guitarhacker, Justanoldmuso and Bob, I downloaded Element and loaded it in to RealBand and loaded Kontakt 7 which seemed to open ok. But I can't get any sound so I'll have to look further to fix that. It's probably a midi-in, midi-out problem. If anyone can suggest anything, I'd be very grateful. Cheers, Mike Mike Garry BIAB 2025/RealBand (5), UltraPak, Kontakt, EZmix, Ozone 9 Elements, Audacity, MSi PC, Windows 11, 64bit, 16GB ram, CPU: Intel i7. https://soundcloud.com/user-952388172

Re: Trying to add Kontakt7 to DAW mkg50 (Mike G) #734095 10/08/22 09:51 PM Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 2,145 Essex England Bob Calver Veteran
Bob Calver Veteran Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 2,145 Essex England	in elements try ticking 'ext' top left hand corner

Re: Trying to add Kontakt7 to DAW MoultiPass #734096 10/08/22 10:06 PM Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Jan 2017 Posts: 844 Queensland, Australia mkg50 (Mike G) OP Expert
OP mkg50 (Mike G) Expert Joined: Jan 2017 Posts: 844 Queensland, Australia	How/where is Komplete free? Mike Mike Garry BIAB 2025/RealBand (5), UltraPak, Kontakt, EZmix, Ozone 9 Elements, Audacity, MSi PC, Windows 11, 64bit, 16GB ram, CPU: Intel i7. https://soundcloud.com/user-952388172

Re: Trying to add Kontakt7 to DAW mkg50 (Mike G) #734101 10/08/22 10:49 PM Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: May 2018 Posts: 1,835 MoultiPass Expert
MoultiPass Expert Joined: May 2018 Posts: 1,835	Originally Posted By: Bob Calver in elements try ticking 'ext' top left hand corner Exact. Nice! Biab Audiophile 2026

Re: Trying to add Kontakt7 to DAW MoultiPass #734213 10/09/22 06:09 PM Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Jan 2017 Posts: 844 Queensland, Australia mkg50 (Mike G) OP Expert
OP mkg50 (Mike G) Expert Joined: Jan 2017 Posts: 844 Queensland, Australia	Originally Posted By: MoultiPass Originally Posted By: mkg50 (Mike G) How/where is Komplete free? Mike Here : https://www.native-instruments.com/fr/catalog/free/ Thanks again MoultiPass. I got sound straight away with Komplete Kontrol. The only problem now is when I save and reopen, Kontakt 7 hasn't saved in Komplete Kontrol and I have to reload Kontakt and the selected instrument again. Any thoughts? Mike Last edited by mkg50 (Mike G); 10/09/22 07:01 PM. Mike Garry BIAB 2025/RealBand (5), UltraPak, Kontakt, EZmix, Ozone 9 Elements, Audacity, MSi PC, Windows 11, 64bit, 16GB ram, CPU: Intel i7. https://soundcloud.com/user-952388172

Re: Trying to add Kontakt7 to DAW mkg50 (Mike G) #734240 10/10/22 02:59 AM Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 24,577 Hamlin NY MarioD Veteran
MarioD Veteran Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 24,577 Hamlin NY	I have found that if you use a wrapper of any kind you run the potential of having issues. Some software will work perfectly with a wrapper and others will not. I have quit using wrappers. YMMV Back in my day the only time we started panic buying was when the bartender shouted "last call"! 64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware

Re: Trying to add Kontakt7 to DAW mkg50 (Mike G) #734513 10/12/22 12:18 PM Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Apr 2017 Posts: 2,004 Sillie Con Valley, California Mike Halloran Veteran
Mike Halloran Veteran Joined: Apr 2017 Posts: 2,004 Sillie Con Valley, California	Originally Posted By: mkg50 (Mike G) … Thanks again MoultiPass. I got sound straight away with Komplete Kontrol. The only problem now is when I save and reopen, Kontakt 7 hasn't saved in Komplete Kontrol and I have to reload Kontakt and the selected instrument again. Any thoughts? Mike Kontakt (full version) and Kontakt Player (free) normally Save settings fine when used with NI Registered libraries but not unregistered 3rd party libraries. The difference is that unregistered libraries do not have an NI serial# that allows them to be listed in NA (Native Access)—without that, it will need to be re-loaded every time. I trust you have registered everything you can through NA, yes? BIAB 2025 Audiophile Mac 24Core/60CoreGPU M2 MacStudioUltra/8TB/192GB Sequoia, M1 MBAir, 2012 MBP Digital Performer11, LogicPro, Finale27/Dorico/Encore/SmartScorePro64/Notion6 /Overture5

Re: Trying to add Kontakt7 to DAW mkg50 (Mike G) #734886 10/15/22 09:37 AM Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 10,821 Middlesex, NC Guitarhacker Veteran
Guitarhacker Veteran Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 10,821 Middlesex, NC	Originally Posted By: mkg50 (Mike G) Thanks Moultipass, Guitarhacker, Justanoldmuso and Bob, I downloaded Element and loaded it in to RealBand and loaded Kontakt 7 which seemed to open ok. But I can't get any sound so I'll have to look further to fix that. It's probably a midi-in, midi-out problem. If anyone can suggest anything, I'd be very grateful. Cheers, Mike Midi requires that you have your channels selected properly. If you're not transmitting and receiving on the same channel.... you won't hear anything. I haven't used midi in quite a while with NI and Kontakt, but as I recall, there is a very small/well hidden place on the GUI where that info is entered into the synth to tell it what to do. I have had that issue several times and mostly when I haven't used it in a while. I have to remember how to set everything up correctly to get music. You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.com Add nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.

Re: Trying to add Kontakt7 to DAW mkg50 (Mike G) #734897 10/15/22 10:13 AM Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: May 2018 Posts: 1,835 MoultiPass Expert
MoultiPass Expert Joined: May 2018 Posts: 1,835	Originally Posted By: Bob Calver in elements try ticking 'ext' top left hand corner Biab Audiophile 2026

Re: Trying to add Kontakt7 to DAW Guitarhacker #734958 10/15/22 09:22 PM Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Jan 2017 Posts: 844 Queensland, Australia mkg50 (Mike G) OP Expert
OP mkg50 (Mike G) Expert Joined: Jan 2017 Posts: 844 Queensland, Australia	Thanks everyone. I think(?) I've figured it out. I was trying to load Komplete Kontrol (and Kontakt 7) among midi tracks/ports 1-16 instead of the DXi/VSTi synth ports (from track 17 onwards) - as I used to when just loading Kontakt 6. Everything sounded fine but when I saved, closed and then opened RealBand again, Kontakt 7 and the instruments I had selected hadn't saved. But loading Komplete Kontrol and Kontakt 7 (and selecting a Kontakt 7 instrument) in one of the DXi/VSTi synth ports seems to have fixed the problem. And every thing saves as it should. Thank you all for your helpful suggestions, which eventually helped me solve the problem - and not give up. Cheers, Mike Last edited by mkg50 (Mike G); 10/16/22 02:14 PM. Mike Garry BIAB 2025/RealBand (5), UltraPak, Kontakt, EZmix, Ozone 9 Elements, Audacity, MSi PC, Windows 11, 64bit, 16GB ram, CPU: Intel i7. https://soundcloud.com/user-952388172

Re: Trying to add Kontakt7 to DAW [Resolved] mkg50 (Mike G) #735404 10/19/22 05:49 AM Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Apr 2017 Posts: 2,004 Sillie Con Valley, California Mike Halloran Veteran
Mike Halloran Veteran Joined: Apr 2017 Posts: 2,004 Sillie Con Valley, California	Glad that you got it resolved and thanks for posting the solution. BIAB 2025 Audiophile Mac 24Core/60CoreGPU M2 MacStudioUltra/8TB/192GB Sequoia, M1 MBAir, 2012 MBP Digital Performer11, LogicPro, Finale27/Dorico/Encore/SmartScorePro64/Notion6 /Overture5

Re: Trying to add Kontakt7 to DAW [Resolved] mkg50 (Mike G) #735469 10/19/22 12:13 PM Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: May 2000 Posts: 22,558 Mi., USA rharv Veteran
rharv Veteran Joined: May 2000 Posts: 22,558 Mi., USA	Yes, thanks .. kind of makes sense that RB would save the synth settings *if it was in a synth slot and not a MIDI out slot. I've been tinkering with Kontakt Komplete and regular Kontakt in RB vs just using them as standalone, and sometimes standalone just seems easier and more reliable, but this may be a good tip as to why. Standalone sure makes GuitarRig easier .. no need for all the Input Monitoring & Recording steps in RB. But it sure is nice when the Kontakt synths work in RB as expected. I think some of this is RB and some of it Kontakt, as previously mentioned. (see Guitarhackers post) Kontakt seems to make assigning MIDI channels or even Audio Outs a challenge. It's hidden in that interface there somewhere .. but sure could be made easier sometimes, or at least more consistent. Last edited by rharv; 10/19/22 12:22 PM. I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome Make your sound your own!

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