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I accidentally tried sforzando of BIAB today.
I found that sforzando can cooperate with the chord builder dialog box!
When I click a chord, the keyboard below sforzando will display keys! This is the keyboard I've been dreaming of. It can be realized by this method!
I recorded a video to share here, hoping to help friends in need. If you knew it long ago, please don't laugh at my stupidity. grin


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https://ufile.io/983xje6i


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If possible, I hope the keyboard under sforzando can be larger.
It is better to write CDEFGAB symbols on it, so that it is more convenient to watch, learn and understand chords.
The best case is that in this position, the chord composition can be displayed.
Like the picture below:
(I wrote the text myself to better explain my meaning.)

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Excellent. That should be very useful for you to visualize the notes used in the different chords.


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Originally Posted By: AudioTrack
Excellent. That should be very useful for you to visualize the notes used in the different chords.



download video:

https://ufile.io/hgjae056


thank you.
I'm using it with EZKEY again. Chords can now be displayed correctly. This is very convenient for learning.

But BIAB does not seem to support VST3 plug-ins?


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You can use KV Element in Biab to use VST3.
You can use BiabVST in Biab or as a standalone to get chord sound and note display, then you can copy chords Biab<>BiabVST

https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=678813#Post678813

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This is the BiabVST in Biab


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Originally Posted By: musocity
You can use KV Element in Biab to use VST3.
You can use BiabVST in Biab or as a standalone to get chord sound and note display, then you can copy chords Biab<>BiabVST

https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=678813#Post678813



download video:

https://ufile.io/wr0a32bt

thank you. I just want to open SCALER software. I have already opened it.
Because there is VST2 version in SCALER.
I now use BIAB to control SCALER, so that I can see the included notes in the chord.


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Originally Posted By: swingbabymix
If you knew it long ago, please don't laugh at my stupidity. grin

You are very clearly not stupid.

I suspect that most of us don't use Sforzando. I was unaware of the keyboard on it. Good find.

Something that your image shows is that it is displaying a particular "voicing" of an ordinary C major chord and I have often wondered if the different possible voicings may be one of the things that sometimes make it hard for you to understand the chords.

I think sforzando as supplied with BiaB has only a few instruments, but you can download other instrument libraries for it. There are a number of good sound libraries around that Sforzando can import. Try Compifont, JJazzLab-SoundFont or Timbres of Heaven. Sforzand have some on their website, both free and paid.


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I love it when I see BIAB play nice with other programs. grin


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Originally Posted By: MusicStudent
I love it when I see BIAB play nice with other programs. grin


thank you.

I recorded a video. At the beginning, SCALER will get stuck. Later, EZKEY will work normally.

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Originally Posted By: swingbabymix
Originally Posted By: MusicStudent
I love it when I see BIAB play nice with other programs. grin


thank you.

I recorded a video. At the beginning, SCALER will get stuck. Later, EZKEY will work normally.

download video:
https://ufile.io/6vas1qcx

This is probably worthy of a new thread.

However, I watched that the user in the video pressed play (at the 1 second mark) then pressed stop (at the 4 second mark). Then the text shows 'Click to start playing. It's stuck', but clicked what? I can only guess that it was bar one.

Then in a few short seconds I heard the song playing, so what was stuck? Did it actually play? What does 'stuck' mean to you? 1 second, 30 seconds, 1 minute?

At 11 seconds I heard the music play. The chord chart shows 22 bars with 7 repeats (154 bars). Perhaps (just perhaps) the program needed to create 154 bars of music from a library of thousands of music segments, get every chord and phrase right, and stitch them together, and play the output without errors.

Then suddenly without warning the screen changed to EZkeys. Did the program do that, or the user with some editing in between? It's impossible to tell with such spurious actions and jumps.

Did you ever consider that the program might have taken a few seconds to generate the data to send to Scaler? That might not be right, I don't know. I don't ever use music programs in this way. I select something and wait for it to be delivered before I select something else. In music generation, especially in something as complex as BiaB, not everything can be instantaneous.

I really didn't observe anything being 'stuck'. I only observed a reasonable few seconds for the program to put together and create the song audio and play it.

Waiting 5 seconds for something as complex as this does not count as 'stuck' to me. Calm down, relax, enjoy what you can achieve. Take your time. Click less, listen more. This might actually be another PICNIC? cry


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Originally Posted By: AudioTrack




The video was edited.
When I use SCALER as the default synth in BIAB, it will cause a jam and crash.
When I play BIAB normally, when I click the stop button, it will appear stuck.
I don't know whether it is BIAB or SCALER.
In addition, it seems unclear to open the SCALER interface in BIAB. However, if I open SCALER in STUDIO ONE, the interface is very clear.


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Originally Posted By: swingbabymix
The video was edited.
When I use SCALER as the default synth in BIAB, it will cause a jam and crash.
When I play BIAB normally, when I click the stop button, it will appear stuck.
I don't know whether it is BIAB or SCALER.
In addition, it seems unclear to open the SCALER interface in BIAB. However, if I open SCALER in STUDIO ONE, the interface is very clear.

I didn't see a crash in the video. However, this is well above my pay grade. Possibly consider reporting this issue to the developers?


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IF BIAB OPENS SCALER, THEN BIAB OFTEN HAS "NOT RESPONDING"


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Originally Posted By: AudioTrack

I didn't see a crash in the video.



Because I removed the video clip of the crash. Because the software crashes, I will see my desktop, and I don't want to show my desktop. grin

But the situation is that if you open the SCALER with BIAB, the load will be slower and BIAB will become unresponsive.


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Originally Posted By: swingbabymix
IF BIAB OPENS SCALER, THEN BIAB OFTEN HAS "NOT RESPONDING"

Probably something that the software developers need to know about. Please contact them via their support email, with as many details about your configuration and describing the issue as possible.


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I guess it may be the design of SCALER.


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On a quick and dirty first attempt BIAB and Scaler 2 appear to work well together. Here I put Scaler on both the Melody Midi and on the Piano SMT.

[video:youtube]https://youtu.be/ULQTUVqF_xM[/video]

Heck, its a start. grin

No crashes so far. Video image is great.


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Too private for other interested peoples? wink

If so, that's fine too. smile

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Opps, let me try to fix that. Tried to make it priviate for the forum. Sorry about the mix and that ending. Like I said quick and dirty. Now I normally would do this all in Reaper, but it is impressive that BIAB is playing along so nicely.

And regarding no crashes. My computer is really optimized to do this type of thing as long as the programs can keep up.

try now.


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULQTUVqF_xM


I watched the video. I saw smooth playback. I have no problem playing it. The problem arises when it stops. When I stop, SCALER causes BIAB to be unresponsive.

Are you using the SCALER VST2 version? Or VST3?


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