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Hallo,
bei einer Reihe von RealTracks bemerke ich eine deutliche Änderung der Klangfarbe während des Abspielens. Mal kommt der Sound sehr mittig, mal geht die Brillanz zurück. Das Ganze ist unabhängig von der Harmoniefolge/Chordprogression und tritt nach Neugenerierung an anderen Stellen auf. Ich habe daraufhin testweise einen kleinen UserTrack mit einem eintaktigen Riff generiert und diesen über 8Takte mit der selben Harmonie laufen lassen - der gleiche Effekt.
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Hat jemand schon einmal diesen Effekt bemerkt und weiß, wie man damit am Besten umgeht?
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Ergänzung
Den Effekt habe ich vor allem bei Rockriffs bemerkt. Ich dachte zuerst, dass es mit Accord Rückungen zu tun hat. Aber es ist wirklich so, dass ein und der selbe Riff - selber Akkord, selbe Lage - mal mit viel Brillanz und mal dumpfer wiedergegeben wird.
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Hallo, Ekke,
so etwas solltest du am besten direkt dem Technischen Support von PG MUsic melden (support@pgmusic.de), idealerweise mit einer Datei eines Beispielssongs, bei dem der Effekt deutlich ist, evtl. frierst du die Tracks vorher ein, wenn du sagst, dass der Effekt nicht regelmäßig reproduzierbar ist.
Die können dann die entsprechenden Realtracks prüfen und ggf. anpassen.
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Hat jemand schon einmal diesen Effekt bemerkt und weiß, wie man damit am Besten umgeht?
Moin Ekke, die Begleitung, die von BiaB generiert wird, ist nicht statisch, sondern es gibt etliche Variationen für ein und denselben Track. Diese sind teilweise leider sehr inhomogen, sodass es zu deutlich hörbaren Unterschieden kommen kann. Die einzige Abhilfe die ich kenne, ist die Neugenerierung des betreffenden Abschnitts, so lange bis er dann "passt". So richtig steuern, welche Variation wann gespielt wird, kann man meines Wissens nicht. Grüße Alex
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Die gerade erschienene Version 2023 von BiaB (vorerst für Windows, die Mac-Variante folgt in der Regel im ersten Halbjahr 2023) erlaubt das partielle Regenerieren von Realtracks und auch das partielle Vorhören von Varianten, aus der man sich dann die beste aussuchen kann.
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Vielen dank Alex,
diesen Effekt hatte ich schon bemerkt und auch schon einen Post bezüglich der musikalischen Änderungen reingestellt. Hier geht es allerdings um die Änderungen des Timbre - klingt wie Phasenverschiebungen. Ich hatte auch einen eigen User Track mit einem Gitarrenriff erstellt. 3mal klingt es gut, beim 4ten Mal ändert sich die Klangfarbe. Klingt auch gut, aber eben anders. Das muss irgend etwas mit der Tongenerierung zu tun haben. Kann durchaus sein, dass es ein Mac spezifisches Problem ist. Ich werd mal eine Anfrage beim technischen Support einstellen. Bis dahin schneide ich die Tracks im DAW zusammen.
Viele Grüße
Ekke
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Vielen Dank,
ich wollte ich erst mal die Anwender befragen, bevor ich mich an den technischen Support wende. Vielleicht gibt es irgendwelche Parameter, die die Soundgenerierung beeinflussen. Ich habe lediglich den Parameter Tempo/Pitchsetting in den RealTracks Settings gefunden (und auf hoch gestellt). Es hört sich etwas wie Phasenverschiebungen an. Es muss an der Generierung liegen, denn ich habe mir mal die zugrundeliegenden m4a Files angehört. Da gibt es diese Klangveränderungen nicht. Außerdem hatte ich ein Riff in einem UserTracks angelegt und da habe ich auch den Effekt, dass sich nach ein paar Takten die Klangfarbe ändert.
Ich werde jetzt mal eine Anfrage an den Support stellen. Vielleicht löst sich die Sache mit der 23ger Version von selbst.
Sehr interessant, was Du über die neue Version schreibst. Vielleicht bekommt man dann die Sache mit den Variationen besser in den Griff. Ist schon etwas aufwendig die Riffs in der DAW zurecht zuschneiden (wobei man damit natürlich auch das Problem mit den Phasenverschiebungen in Griff bekommen könnte).
Viele Grüße
Ekke
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Hallo Alex,
Ich glaube, ich habe die Lösung gefunden.
Wenn ich den Parameter "EDIT - Songform - Additional Song Settings: AVOID Transpositions in RealTracks" setze, tritt das Problem bei meinem UserTrack und bei den meisten RealTracks nicht mehr auf.
Bei einigen Metal Gitarren RealTracks tritt die Klangänderung zwar noch auf, aber das wird wohl die Sache mit den Varianten sein, die Du beschrieben hast. Wahrscheinlich wird der gleich Riff einmal "Normal" und einmal in Drop D eingespielt.
Der Parameter "EDIT - Songform - Additional Song Settings: AVOID Transpositions in RealTracks" muss für jeden Song separat eingestellt werden.
vielen Dank für Deine Unterstützung.
Ekke
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Moin Ekke,
jetzt hätte ich deine Antwort fast überlesen. Danke für diesen genialen Tipp! Das ist ein echter Gamechanger, gerade bei den verzerrten E-Gitarren-Tracks. Nichts gegen ein paar Variationen, aber jetzt sind diese extremen Klangunterschiede weg.
Viele Grüße
Alex
PS: Unter Options -> Preferences -> Overrides kannst du das Avoid-Häkchen für alle Songs setzen - zumindest in der PC-Version.
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