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I'm sure this must have come up countless time ... but I don't know where to look. And while I couldn't find an exact forum fit, I figured this might be the right place? If not, I'm sure the mods will move it and let me know.
That said, I found style a I thought had the perfect instrumentation for a song I was working on, but the style and the song had different time signatures. I changed the # of beats in Bar Settings, but it sure didn't sound right.
Specifically I was using a 4/4 style and trying to make it work in a 3/4 song.
I can imagine that the drum beats using a RealTrack would never sound right, but I guess also that must be true for the riffs as well, right?
So is the only solution to find another style in the correct tempo and then try to cobble together similar instruments ... or do some RealTracks have the same player playing the same setup in both 4/4 and 3/4?
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This is the right sub forum for such a question... Great question BTW!
So, there's very few songs that actually do this, hence you won't find a BB style that will do this in a satisfactory manner..... changing from 4/4 to 3/4 in the same general style. I used to play the Kenny Rogers song Lucile starting in 3/4 and switch to 4/4 in the chorus, back and forth as required.... the dancers did NOT like that one bit.
Anyway.... how to do it in BB. My best guess at how to accomplish this task and have it sound reasonably good would be to select TWO styles... one in 4/4 and one in 3/4 and generate TWO DIFFERENT projects. One complete in 4/4 and the same for 3/4.
Then.... Import the finished/mixed waves into a DAW and use your editing functions to split them in the proper places using a MEASURE as the resolution, and splice them together in a new track. Place them both in the same project and splice them together in a new track in that project.
That's what I would try first.
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Thanks, Guitarhacker ... or can I just call you 'Hack' for short?  I guess the basic answer is you can't successfully use a style created in one time signature in another ... so a RealTracks style will only work in the time signature for which is was created. Since AFAIK there are no equivalent 3/4 and 4/4 RealTracks, meaning same player with same instrument and playing style. My second thought would be that this should work well with MIDI styles where you could use F5 to change both the time signature and style at various points in the song. Then use identical instrument patches in both the 3/4 and 4/4 sections.
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I don't work in midi very often but whatever it takes to get the job done.
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For MIDI there is actually a function Edit MIDI Form - where you can change from 4/4 to 3/4 and vice versa. You find the function in BIAB 2022 for MAC when you click on the drop down window in the mixer under each track.
When it comes to Real Track you will have to play around with the Track Time Base
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For MIDI there is actually a function Edit MIDI Form - where you can change from 4/4 to 3/4 and vice versa. You find the function in BIAB 2022 for MAC when you click on the drop down window in the mixer under each track.
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