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I create .wav files every day using the menu commands as shown above with no resultant issues to the original .sgu file. so there is something else the OP is doing that is causing this. I cannot replicate his issue at all doing "normal" creation of wav files.
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Andrew:
I make an SGU called, let's say, Hey Jude. I render the tracks with the name Hey Jude. Not unreasonable imho and normal when rendering from a DAW, afaik. That destroys the information in the SGU.
I don't recall that happening before 2022/23, but maybe it started earlier - I'm an intermittent user.
I'm simply suggesting a warning that will happen.
Best - Andy
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Yes I do agree with you there, the program should not allow you to render a file with the exact same filename as your MGU.
Andrew
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Yes I do agree with you there, the program should not allow you to render a file with the exact same filename as your MGU. Hi Andrew. Hasn't it always been like that (or is this a recent change)?
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Exactly, there has been no recent change. I looked back at some older versions, and the render dialog was improved and simplified in 2017 - prior to that version it would just save your rendered file in the current folder without letting you choose a file name at all. There was a separate "choose" button that would let you rename the file as long as it was in the same folder. That button advised against choosing the same name as your song file in the tooltip.
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Andy123, are you using the Band-in-a-Box Audio Editor?
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For the record, I can reproduce this with BIAB Mac 2022.
If I export audio files to the same directory as the SGU, deleting the "_Render" component of the suggested base filename, everything in the mixer turns audio orange, track after track, as the export progresses.
(It's worth mentioning that the pre-export track parameters have not been destroyed and can be recovered by moving the WAVs and reloading the SGU.)
I realize this is behavior as designed but I can't say I find it appropriate. I'm just lucky I use subfolders for exports, as I always delete that "_Render" myself and am surprised I never got bit by this. It would seem more sensible to require a string like "performance_track" in files' names for their presence to have this confusing effect; as has been suggested, exporting heyjude.SGU as heyjude.WAV is really the obvious way to do that export.
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FWIW, I remember Henry Clarke, in one of his videos, advising always to make a sub-folder for rendering into before doing any rendering, because BiaB would import same-name audio files in the main song folder onto tracks.
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