If a new customer comes along and wants to know what bonus paks they've missed out on from previous years, or if you skip upgrading one or more year/s and then want to complete your collection of paks later, are they gone for good, or do they show up elsewhere sometime later?
Ryan, No, they are never "gone", but become a part of bigger packages the next year like Ultra Pack, Audiophile and perhaps others, but not the lower tier.
And the next new Bonus pack will be born the next year.
When I asked this of PG Music, the answer, in my opinion, was not clear. I think that some parts of a bonus pak become part of future versions but not all. The last statement I recall was that the company is considering whether to make some sort of catch-up pak available. However, this is just my take on the discussion and does not in any way represent an answer by PG Music.
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the logical way for PGMusic to monetize the work they've put into creating the bonus paks is to include previously released paks in one of the premium offerings. Like maybe a new version between Ultrapak plus and audiophile. Or bundle them into the Ultrapak plus offering.
This approach would be consistent with the current approach of upselling by adding more content to some paks while simultaneously making it affordable to people who only want to buy the new stuff because they already have all the old stuff.
It would also mean that the bonus packs don't vanish after one offering, and can continue adding value to the customers and the company's bottom line.
I'd pay a little extra every few years to catch up on all the bonus content I missed. For some reason that makes more sense to me than a bunch of small extra purchases of bonus offerings.
the logical way for PGMusic to monetize the work they've put into creating the bonus paks is to include previously released paks in one of the premium offerings. Like maybe a new version between Ultrapak plus and audiophile. Or bundle them into the Ultrapak plus offering.
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Or maybe keep all bonus paks available in the store. That way people can purchase which pak(s) they want, much like Realtracks. That would keep the upgrade costs lower but still have the paks available year after year. YMMV
My 1.25 cents, inflation!
Back in my day the only time we started panic buying was when the bartender shouted "last call"!
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Seems to me the issue would be that if the bonus RT come back in a future package, then folks will feel like they are paying for the same content they already paid for? No me of course, but other folks...
Dan, that’s exactly what I did not feel closure on. My understanding is some yes, some no.
Mario, I can’t remember what I bought, or didn’t buy, in almost three decades of using BIAB. If they offered those bonus Paks AND there was a utility to tell me what BONUS add-ons I don’t have, then we are good to go.
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I would like to see a utility that scans your current BIAB folder and then shows what you're missing. BIAB, at least the last time I looked, already knows what it doesn't have, so maybe something that provides a custom "Catch-Up Pak' that will bundle everything you're missing into one Pak.
Obviously, you could do that manually, and have a pick-and-choose selection to 'build' your 'Catch-Up Pak', and just choose what you want.
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Mario, I can’t remember what I bought, or didn’t buy, in almost three decades of using BIAB. If they offered those bonus Paks AND there was a utility to tell me what BONUS add-ons I don’t have, then we are good to go.
Same here Matt so this is a good idea.
Back in my day the only time we started panic buying was when the bartender shouted "last call"!
64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
The concept is excellent. A Pak Update feature would be very useful.
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It seems that a little further west really got hammered. Glad you're all OK.
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It seems that a little further west really got hammered. Glad you're all OK.
The cities on the Eastern shores of Lake Erie and Lake Ontario got hit very hard. Buffalo NY is at the Eastern end of Lake Erie and Watertown NY is at the Eastern end of Lake Ontario. Those surrounding areas also got hit.
When we get hit hard is from a NorEastern. We generally get a lot of snow during those storms; note I am near Rochester NY. We get nailed because the Noreastern picks up moisture from Lake Ontario, converts it to snow, then dumps it on us, usually in my driveway!
We get nailed because the Noreastern picks up moisture from Lake Ontario, converts it to snow, then dumps it on us, usually in my driveway!
OK, I get the picture now:
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I think, with no proof, that the answer is Some, but a little bit No. That menu option shows some add-ons like Xtra and Xpro styles, but as far as RealTracks in bonus paks, we don't know how many are rolled into next year as part of the normal package. The ones that are not are the basis for the questions that are being explored here.
My logic is, when I asked about this, if all bonus pak offerings eventually wind up in the regular package, then why would PG Music be considering this question further? They could have just told me I have everything.
But I could be completely wrong.
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