Originally Posted By: Jim Fogle
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Once that generate code is moved to the BBPlugin it will be all done in the Plugin without bbw4. The Plugin won't have to wait inline for the Biab Delphi guys to fix/add something to bbw4 so the Plugin works again, it will be all in the BBPlugin, self contained.


But, instead of embracing your idea PG Music uses a bridge program to interface between the main Band-in-a-Box (BiaB) program and the plugin. Since PG Music also uses a bridge program to interface between the main BiaB program and RealBand I believe that action implies PG Music favors bridge programs.
"But, instead of embracing your idea"
Originally Posted By: Pipeline
I have done a bit more searching and found this http://www.energy-xt.com/index.php?id=0115 works like how I suggested but using rewire.

"ReWire VST works as a standard VST instruments and can load all versions of Reason (32-bit and 64-bit) on PC and Mac OS X. Want to use Reason inside energyXT, MPC, Maschine or any other VST DAW/sequencer, then ReWire VST is for you.".......

johnjohnjohn " get the whole thing converted to a VSTi that I can use in my DAW!"
that could not be hard to do as realband\data\bbw2.exe generates up the tracks then lays them in real band that is a daw - initializing accompaniment functions is starting bbw2.exe up that appears to be much the same as bb\bbw.exe band in a box............

The vst can work in a similar way - just needs to use the c:\realband\data\bbw2.exe like real band does to bring the tracks into the daw instead.

any ideas or suggestions will help.

"any ideas or suggestions will help." all those years before it was released and no suggestions to help how it could work !
Originally Posted By: Pipeline
just trying out RapidComposer http://www.musicdevelopments.com/rapidcomposer.html it is a standalone and a vsti - the vst RapidComposer_x64.dll (400k) is just used to connect the daw to the RapidComposer_x64.exe (9meg) that starts up when the vst is loaded. BBW.exe is only 8meg so a vst version would be a must to lay tracks down straight in your daw.. though the syncing problem would have to be fixed, like that rewire vst didn't work http://www.energy-xt.com/index.php?id=0115


Built-in plugin functionality may be the best way forward but it may not be and maybe that is why PG Music has chosen another direction. PG Music presently uses a bridge program to obtain functionality remotely. That is an undeniable fact.

You've presented your suggestion for built-in plugin functionality in multiple threads. You've continually improved the mock-ups that demonstrate your vision of how the functionality can work. The posts are out there for all to see.

Why not continue to offer suggestions about the current plugin? Numerous suggestions such as the track volume control and how the mute/solo buttons work have made a big difference in how the plugin operates. You, Jeff Pettit and Rob Helms have consistently been in the forefront as far as contributing error posts and suggestions regarding the plugin.
The Plugin looks professional now that is from all the work that went into bringing the interface up there with other VSTs but now it's the lame asss back end that needs a quantum leap also, you have a Ferrari with a vw engine. Adar programs the vst quickly Win/Mac but all the while waiting for the back end.
I can't see PG Music adopting built-in plugin functionality this year unless they make the switch when Band-in-a-Box for Mac is released. Maybe it's time to drop the idea for now and bring it up again when plugin version 6 is released.
drop it ? I just showed Sforzando playing any section of any wma instantly, is this helpful to PG ??? or should I have not posted it and dropped it ?? A lot of things in the VST now are accepted as standard useful things but it took a lot of explaining and up against opposition to get them implemented. When ideas come to me I post them. It's not easy with near zero encouraging to keep going. Over the years I have seen these ideas knocked then down the track they are implemented and the very ones that knocked it are using the feature and suggesting it to others. So I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place. It has worn me out doing all this so some encouragement does help frown
I just wish some cleaver users from the Reaper or other forums had Biab (Mac's gone he was into Ham radio and electronics) and they were here then I could ask them questions how best to do such n such. I tried to get evildragon as he is so up on it all and in a lot of forums, to beta test here but he said he was too busy with other beta testing. I should have another look for clever users, I'll tell them I'll buy them Biab myself if they come here ! (I think I'll get onto that right now!) I feel very much alone here but in other forums I'm asking so many clever other users for help.
Time is the vindicator, I have seen so many things come to pass happening right now that came to me years ago, but telling others at the time they thought you were a crazy conspiracy theorist. I remember the day Diana died in the car crash, they said on the radio "Diana is still alive and a man has died" and I said no that's not right Diana died a man is still alive. So I tend to trust what comes to me from inside rather than from what CNN tells me as it's usually the opposite. Conspiracy theories are turning out to be actually spoiler alerts. Let's see what happens in 2023 to things that people hold dear to their hearts.