Bob,

I guess we will just have to disagree forever on this one. And it also must mean that I have no musical talent, because I would love to be able to play the drums. About as far as I have gotten so far, after having a nice PDP fusion kit here at home, is page 2 of the rudiments.

As soon as I add anything like a paradiddle into the mix, game over.

I still think you are missing the point. These guys are about putting on a visual gag show; this point is made clearly, clearly, infinitely clearly after watching the 'Wipeout' video.

The extra 4th man and the drummer are the visual show, the bass player and the guitar player are there for support.

The drummer isn't stealing the show - he is the show - plain and simple.

This band doesn't exist to play music. If that were true, they would ditch the lamé jackets, or leave the band for a 'proper' band. It exists for spectacle, on a low budget.

BTW - In the garden of Eden, FWIW.