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For me, the usefulness of AI. singers is that if I don't feel like singing a song I've already written (I'm learning to sing it quite slowly, because I'm 72 years old, although I know that many older people can still do it). I am still working here, but the experience is at the beginner level in this area. So far, my edits quite often go the wrong way and then I try to correct it and often go all the way back. But what would I like, I've had it since January 2023 and I'm very happy with my toy. And then it helps me in songs for alto and soprano, or high tenor. And also these A.I. singers can find me places in the parts of the song that can be used for their singing as good ideas. An experienced singer will laugh at this, but I do not have his gift, because I am an amateur singer. I don't worry about it and I also smile and enjoy singing and that's how it should be. Finally, I want to apologize to Dcuny (he is really knowledgeable in this topic - I read his posts on forum.synthesizerv and the fact that he did not list Asterian was not his fault, but mine, because my English (I use Google Translator a lot) did not provide me the right feeling and understanding of his list in the post that it was intended only for a defined group.
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I have to protest!
I don't know what these crazy new people are doing with these fake singers, but back in my day if we wanted to play a piano we had to get out the John Thompson book and learn it ourselves. And if we didn't practice, our mamas would spank our hands with a ruler until we did learn! Or if we needed a guitar we had to listen to Chet and pick up a six string and learn how to play the damned thing!!
That was before those long haired hippie freaks who couldn't even play came along!
The next thing you are going to say is that you want people to just go to some software program and type in some chords like a bunch of stupid monkeys and make some fake songs with fake instruments and pretend like they know how to play when they don't know nothing!!!
I don't like it and I won't have it here in the US of A. If you want to do something this repugnant why don't you surrender your US Passport and go over there and do it in Canada!!!!!!
I want no part of this fake singing and fake music.
So there!!!
P.S. Wait!
I just went on my computer and done fount out I done already published 165 songs using this robot!
How in the heck did that happen.
Forgive me y'all. I had promised myself to swear off hard liquor this year but it hasn't quite gone the way I wanted it to.
Carry on.
Last edited by David Snyder; 01/16/23 05:57 PM. Reason: being a hypocrite
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You make me laugh The next thing you are going to say is that you want people to just go to some software program and type in some chords like a bunch of stupid monkeys and make some fake songs with fake instruments and pretend like that know how to play when they don't know nothing!!! I mean, we are on the BiaB Forums, so .. kind of funny but kind of insulting. I'm choosing to take it as intended humor without the insults. You have to 'know something' to make it work, after all
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You are right, Harv and I had to apologize and take it back.
I forgot I done wrote 165 songs using the robot so I guess I had no call to say that.
I suppose I better go dry out and try and get some shut eye.
Tell me when the next version is out. Carry on.
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The next thing you are going to say is that you want people to just go to some software program and type in some chords like a bunch of stupid monkeys That's actually the least of my worries. You'd at least have to know what a chord is and which progressions work and which don't. Fast forward 10 years and you'd ask an AI of your choice "please compose a Dire Straits ballad like "Romeo and Juliet", and you'd get a decent song sung by Mark Knopfler. "You: And while you're at it, can you please create a suitable music video synced to the music? AI: No problem...". And these songs would be "composed" by kids who spend all day wondering why some piano keys are black and some are white. That was before those long haired hippie freaks who couldn't even play came along! Hey, careful my friend... I'm a short haired hippie freak!
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The idea that AI-generated vocals/lyrics/music are not very acceptable for the reasons that David alluded to and other reasons will be a point of view of some people. The idea that human-generated vocals/lyrics/music are not very acceptable to some people is pretty obvious. I don't personally see "AI-generated" music all that different than "human" generated music. The AI output is generated purely by human ideas. Until the AI becomes able to create its own language and culture, it will always mimic human speech patterns. The way we have learned to create music has significantly changed in the last thirty years or so. In the past, it was necessary to go see some guitar player live to figure out how to copy what he or she was playing. Now we turn on the computer and search for a tutorial on a particular song. Don't play guitar? Buy BIAB. Need drums? Well, you get the point. Being "chained" to the piano and having your hand slapped for failures, both real and imagined, has caused more than a few people to abandon music. Other people have spent countless hours taking lessons to no avail. There are many possible "roads to the destination." I think we live in a large enough universe of music to allow anyone by any method to create whatever pleases them, even the gangster rap I so seriously dislike. Like it or not, AI-generated vocals, words, text, art, video, and a hundred other AI-generated things are already in everyday use and will increase rapidly as time passes. The future of music is unpredictable. What we like and dislike will change. Change is the only thing that is constant. There are some issues to be sorted out with all this AI business. AI is learning from everything it is exposed to, and what it acquires from some artists' intellectual property is not currently being taken into consideration. Legal challenges will undoubtedly follow. Billy EDIT: Long Haired Hippie Freak generated by AI...lol  My long hair just can't cover up my Redneck...lol or so my AI says...lol 
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I played the guitar for about 50 years, but after shingles, I have a numb finger - the ring finger on my left hand and I lost the motivation to play the guitar because my playing was limited. But much earlier, since January 2005, I have had a Band in a box and later a RealBand, so since then I have been playing music in my head and not in my fingers. I sing in deeper positions and my voice is not as flexible as tenor, alto and soprano. Actually, from the moment I started playing the guitar, when I learned a few chords, I started creating my own songs for the entertainment of a small circle of my acquaintances, instead of focusing on more songs written by someone else. Of course, over time playing in different places like pubs, it happened that I was playing well-known songs with more musicians more people and that night I only played three of my songs, so without much effort after a while I played everything I needed and also songs variously known by other writers, because I liked them. Since I started working with bands, I had a desire to write songs for them as well. But the bands were playing songs that had original lyrics in English, so they wanted me to write the lyrics in Czech. Also, some musician, usually the band leader, let me write lyrics to his melody. Band in a box and even more RealBand replaced my band and that gave me the opportunity to write music for my song and year after year I get more great support in developing music applications. I wrote enough lyrics for different female singers (alto, soprano), so I had the desire to write melodies for them as well, but my singing never (with a few exceptions) gave the demo recording the right charge to convince the singer. And now I'm finally going to write why I've been talking for so long. A.I. singers gives me the opportunity to develop my voice for higher positions and also the inspiration to improve the quality of the melody and maybe finally I will be able to offer a song and I will succeed. And most importantly, I won't have to sing it myself in the studio every time. And Synthesizer V Studio Pro is also great for creating vocals.
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The emerging manual for Synthesizer V Studio Pro by the user "claire Regular" is created at the link: https://manual.synthv.info/I'm already reading it and it's great...
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The emerging manual for Synthesizer V Studio Pro by the user "claire Regular" is created at the link: https://manual.synthv.info/I'm already reading it and it's great... Thank you for this, the Dreamtonics situation with Synth 5 documentation is frustrating. This looks good. Claire’s manual requires a lot of hierarchy traversal off the little hamburger navigation thingie, though, which makes browsing difficult (I like having an entire manual in a PDF, or a single web page.)
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