All sorted from that, Andrew. grin

Again, maybe useful to future-others ...

... It didn't occur to me at all that the basic properties might differ between the notation window options. So I had expected to be able to pull notes off the edit-view's grid, and other-views didn't even enter my mind.

I have just created a few bars of something random to check, and the "off" degree was right there to see and was easily tailored (also the *presence* if useful by adjusting the duration there too, I found.)

Thanks again Andrew.