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Good morning, I have a little problem… My Biab songs take a long time to regenerate, it's very very annoying, I had a 2013 macbookpro which worked great but had this problem. I was able to invest in an MBP M1 max/32Gb ram, a nice racing beast and I thought that would solve this problem. Nay, I'm still at the same point, sometimes almost a minute to absorb a few chord changes and even just the change of a chord spins the wheel for 30s, the M1 max hasn't changed anything at all? this is the case even with just 1 verse of 16 measures Is this “normal”, I watched BIAB tutorials on the internet or the loading is almost instantaneous, but it was on a window system, can this be the cause of this problem? I have an audiophile version (with AIFF files, much heavier) but I just redid the installation of BIAB with only MP3 files and it's the same thing, no improvement, sometimes I have time to go make me a coffee... Does anyone have the same problems or is my system (monterey 12.6.3) the problem. how is your workflow? thank you for sharing your knowledge. Take care  phil
MacBookPro M1 max, BIAB audiophile 23, Logicpro X, UAD apollo, ASR10, marshall, Vox, Guitars...
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No that's not normal at all. In the RealTracks Preferences dialog, is "Speed up generation" checked? With your system it should probably take a split second for playback to start, however if you had the setting unchecked, BIAB would be generating the whole song prior to starting playback and it would take a bit longer. Still that doesn't sound like your issue. Try closing BIAB, then duplicate the Preferences folder (in Applications\Band-in-a-Box) and name it Preferences_backup. Then, delete all the files in the Preferences folder. Now you can test playback with the factory defaults.
Did you actually try installing the program to your M1's internal HD and running it from there?
Andrew
PG Music Inc.
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hello,
"Accelerate generation" was unchecked.
by doing so, the improvement is obvious, but by regenerating the prefs it is even better.
I had installed BIAB on the internal disk with only MP3 files (I thought it would speed up the loading of the RTs, but it did not improve the loading) but I was also using the disk provided by PG for the audiophile version with AIFF files. I did some testing before posting to see which setup would work best.
now with the external audiophile HD it's very good, so I'm only going to use this installation and fire the other...
Do you think that copying the HD audiophile on an external SSD will speed up the program ?
Thanks a lot Andrew, you saved me a lot of time. ;-)
take care
MacBookPro M1 max, BIAB audiophile 23, Logicpro X, UAD apollo, ASR10, marshall, Vox, Guitars...
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It should be quicker with the aiff on an SSD as Biab don't need to decompress the m4a first to write to RAM.
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I don't think so, I took the audiophile version because it provides a HD with the original AIFF files (well, there are also the MP4 files…), and this precisely to avoid the MP4 to AIFF conversion, because the conversion will not be a true AIFF file, it will have lost a lot of information. the audiophile RT folder weighs 1.61TB, that of an MP4-only version is 130Gb.
thanks anyway
phil
MacBookPro M1 max, BIAB audiophile 23, Logicpro X, UAD apollo, ASR10, marshall, Vox, Guitars...
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"In the RealTracks Preferences dialog, is "Speed up generation" checked?"
I don't recall ever seeing this setting, where exactly will I find it?
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hello, the problem is solved thanks to Andrew-PG team, indeed the box was not checked and in addition I regenerated the prefs and now the loading of the RT is almost instantaneous, I tested and no notable difference between a system installed on the internal SSD HD and an installation on an external HD, namely the HD provided by BIAB for the audiophile versions...thank you for your comments
MacBookPro M1 max, BIAB audiophile 23, Logicpro X, UAD apollo, ASR10, marshall, Vox, Guitars...
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I tested and no notable difference between a system installed on the internal SSD HD and an installation on an external HD, namely the HD provided by BIAB for the audiophile versions... I've run that test many times over the years. My findings are the same. I have everything installed on a Thunderbolt connected SSD, however. It's no faster, true, but USB connected drives and hubs sometimes fall asleep and don't wake up unless you unplug and re-plug. Hard to believe that Apple has never fixed this in the 20 years since I first observed this on the G5.
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