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MCity. (re use..need).
i'll try to explain…which i hope makes sense re rb. (Maybe someone new to pg might find this of interest too.)
1..Firstly, some history.
in the past 'old days' pre daws often a studio would be hired by individuals and groups obviously to record and/or develop further ones songs/ideas etc. Some people would go in with fully developed ideas and others not. sometimes the studio was used to 'jam n' lets see what comes out of it'sorta idea.
Often song development involved firstly laying down 'rough instruments n' guide vocs'. ie…bed tracks /experimentation. then the next phase often was the use of pro session musicians to really make a song shine. which is why some studios often used the same 'rhythm section' and soloists for different songwriters songs.
so how does this method relate to pg products ?...here goes mate.
2..Use of PG products. (bear in mind the 'bed traks' n' 'session musicians'.)
heres how i think logically and the reason for the preamble in para 1 mate.
i think of biab as my 'bed traks//guide traks generator' as well as my 'test bed for alternate chord arrangements' and real band as my tester of 'session musicians//solos etc ie THE SHINE'.
now someone might say 'but you can use biab for both ..this is true BUT rb has 48 traks. and bb has fewer traks….so when i'm auditioning session musicians i often find i run out of traks in bb compared to rb.
please understand mate cos rb has sooo many traks…when i'm going thru' slews of pg musicians i can do things like ' hmm dunno if i like that but ill save it to a muted trak till something better comes up' OR WOW i'm loving that session musician so it gets saved. in summary with rb i have more flexibility cos of more traks i can save my session musician 'likes' to.
now some people will say..'i dont bother with rb, i find something i like in bb n' bonk it into my fav **** daw. ' yes one can do it that way but FOR ME that way i'm finding i'm toing n' froing too much tween bb n' the daw. basically i'm using rb to save my 'likes' or 'close like' or session musicians that i like but need some manipulating//tricks. i'm not knocking what others do…but for me i like my method.
in summary after having gone thru' tons of pg session musicians and culling the herd i often end up with 30 or more session musicians i like on separate traks of course in rb. having done the above THEN its final song assembly time. this is where TOD comes in. if a trak needs lots of manipulation//moving licks around i'll do this in TOD. eg detailed deep editing. final assembly i might stay in rb if its more straightfoward. (hence i like the way you showed trak/clip editing in your bb/rb graphics.)
once ive sorted the audio wheat from the chaff THEN i do my final lead vocs in TOD. i sometimes use TOD to mixdown n' sometimes rb for final mix to stereo.
to wrap up..two of the things i like about rb is the LOOOONG MENU which allows me to do lots of gen tricks etc etc as well as the flexibility of trak count viz biab.
in summary i dont think of TOD vs Biab vs RB BUT using the features of all 3.
oops forgot to mention…if biab had 48 traks then i would have a different method particularly if this new biab had all the fancy editing your great graphics example showed upthread.
i hope i make some sense…lol.
respect and happiness mate.
om
ps..another reason i root for rb is i like to support the underdog…lol.
Last edited by justanoldmuso; 02/19/23 12:58 PM.
my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs(90 songs created useing bb/rb) (lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)
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