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#754379 02/18/23 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted By: eddie1261
Also, if you can fill out one set of numbers per minute, never sleeping, it would take you 23 years to hit every combination.


1 2 3 4 5 6
1 2 3 4 5 7
1 2 3 4 5 8
1 2 3 4 5 9

Etc. 12,271,512 times.

Thumper ask Google how many combinations of 6 numbers there are in 48 numbers.

I didn't ask Google but here is my answer.
It's a BIG number.
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Originally Posted By: David Snyder
Can someone please ask ChatGPT this for me and report back:

How do I get someone to listen to my new song 1,000,000 times on Spotify and buy it 1,000,000 times on Amazon or iTunes?

Please give precise instructions and links.

If it gives you a good answer please post that here and then I will look into using it.

Hey thanks y'all. Gotta run!!!

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Just got off the phone with ChatGPT. It says this will take a bunch of time and with the cost of electricity these days it has to charge $400/hr.

He says a $1000USD retainer should cover it, any credit card should do smile


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Many artists - musicians, writers, painters, etc.- abhor anything AI. Just a generation ago, 2D artists decried the use of anything digital used to create images. Before that it was anything computerized that made correcting errors easier. Before that it was the typewriter. Where does the fear end?

Shouldn't the question be, "What is the end result to be?" rather than "Will it replace me or let someone with less talent/skill be as good as I am at what I do?"

Is the goal to present music the audience enjoys/wants or is it to preserve "the old way" of doing it?

Use it or not, AI in art is here, probably to stay. If the argument to get rid of it is that it saps human creativity, then BiaB and other aps, digital instruments, and any other technology beyond the stick and stone should be similarly relegated.


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Remember Sony's AIBO from 90s.. that was supposed to "replace" pets? Should not be long now, with all mighty AI. Better start thinking now how to properly retire our eating, pooping, scratching, misbehaved Bingos and Snowballs....

BIAB for the most part is "Human" musicians performance library. Why should it be anything else?
I hope PG team will continue to record / support talented humans and further develop the "box" that houses them.

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While AI has made significant strides in generating music and images, it is unlikely that BIAB will become obsolete in the near future. BIAB has been a reliable tool for musicians for over 30 years, and continues to be used by many professional musicians today.

The program's strength lies in its ability to create custom backing tracks based on user input, which allows for a high degree of creative control. Additionally, the program's vast library of realtracks and styles allows for a wide range of musical expression.

While AI-generated music can certainly provide new and exciting possibilities, it is important to remember that it is still a relatively new technology and has yet to match the level of creativity and flexibility that BIAB provides. Furthermore, AI-generated music lacks the personalized touch that is only possible with human creativity and emotion. As such, it is likely that BIAB will continue to be a useful tool for musicians for years to come.


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Originally Posted By: Mullanphy
Many artists - musicians, writers, painters, etc.- abhor anything AI. <...snip...>

And at one time people abhorred:
  • Automobiles (Get a horse!)
  • Saxophones (Especially in German bands when saxes were new)
  • Jazz (Devil's Music)
  • Electric guitars (They aren't real guitars)
  • Rock n Roll (Devil's Music)
  • Electric ignition on Harleys (Real men kick start)
  • Disco (Disco Sucks!)
  • Home computers (I'll never have one of those in MY house)
  • Backing Tracks (You're not really playing that)
  • and so on, and on, and on

Those who adapt well will survive, those who don't have more difficulty surviving.

AI is just another tool added to our collective toolbox. AI will be used for good, for evil and for boring stuff too.

I play a Wind Synthesizer. It didn't replace my saxophone, just expanded my expressive capabilities. I play the sax a little less, but it's still my primary instrument. The Rhodes piano didn't replace the acoustic piano, the electric guitar didn't replace the acoustic guitar, and AI won't replace Band-in-a-Box. It's just another tool.

Like it or not, it's here to stay.

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I find this interesting. Why would this forum software allow the title of an existing thread to be changed?

And what is the significance of "Q"? Or did you try to hit Tab but hit Q instead in the title field?


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Thump, the forum didn't "allow" it. It's just text on a page and anybody can change it.

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Hmmmm, I learn something every day.
Maybe the Q was short for Quintessence? smile


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Or Q-rious!

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Originally Posted By: dr_t
With all the current hype about ... the various AI engines that are apparently capable of generating high quality images and music, I'm wondering what the future road-map looks like for BIAB.

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I wonder how BIAB is going to adapt to keep up with the rapid advancements in AI, or if it intends not to, but just position itself as a niche product for a specific type of person (of, dare I say it, a certain age).......


After reading some messages after my last reply I feel rightfully chastised for not responding directly to the original post which, believe it or not asked a question about BiaB's direction vis a vis AI.

I'd say BiaB will most likely continue on the path they are on. Folks who use AI to put notes on manuscript paper and/or in scores are likely uninterested in creating or playing music. As long as there are musical artists AND listeners who prefer "real" music to AI generated notes, BiaB has nothing to worry about.

I do take umbrage, however, at the idea that "AI engines .. are apparently capable of generating high quality images and music". Not yet. the engines still make unintended mistakes and have no way of correcting them or folding them seamlessly into the images, text, or sounds. That is the difference between I and AI - humans recognize and correct or put into perspective the errors they make where AI just keep moving without concern for what they've done.

Again, just my opinion, but it makes sense to me.


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I already asked, and the response was the usual about building a fan base, and creating interesting content to grow your fan base act... Quite boring answer. I asked for suggestions or if could come up with some genius ideas for creating content on a limited budget act - well ChatGPT more or less told me not to quit my day time job smile


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A few years ago, I posted a topic called "BiaB :A Swiss knife?". It was intended to question the trend of the soft relative to its initial goal.
Actually, when I bought BiaB (in floppy disks), the dealer told me it was an accompaniment software designed by Canadian jazz musicians for jazzmen. Now, BiaB is everything for every people.
IMHO, PGmusic should choose what they want BiaB to be and stick to it. Honestly, I personally never use Klerzmer, RAP, metal, etc music styles and I don't think I will.
Many people use BiaB to create backing tracks, proving that's evidence of useful potential of the soft.
As for AI, other members rightfully said that it's only a tool, and it's output will heavily depend on input quality.
I currently see several possibilities of applying BiaB to jazz creation : sampling, soloing, strings and brass arrangements, vocal jazz, etc.
I'd be particularly excited if BiaB could use pdf scores (partial or whole) to serve as a starting point to make a background multi-instruments music... Can be endless possibilities there...

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I can see there're quite some arguments happening here in this thread, as to whether BiaB is an AI or just another smart algorithm.

Let me end the fight in this way.

BiaB is the most intelligent music software I have ever used. Period.

Over past years, I have used hundreds of various VSTs and DAW plugins to produce commercial music. Not a single one of those software has the intelligence level comparable to BiaB's ability of extracting source material based on built-in music theory based algorithms.

Second place, not even come close, I would give to iZotope, for its AI based detection technology, such as Ozone, Neutron, RX, and Nectar.

Third place? I don't know. Hit'n'mix RipX? Dreamtonics Synthesizer V? Celemony Melodyne? Seem all worth of being mentioned.

I do hope someone in this forum can prove I'm wrong, by simply naming a software more intelligent than BiaB.


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