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TEMPO TANTRUM: What a lead singer has when they can't stay in time.
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Our resident bumper....... Nice HTL. Heeeee's baaaaack! Where you been, man?
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I read this thread again because I was curious why it had become so long. It's been five years since I interacted with the thread, and I hardly ever visit the User Showcase (I'm too busy writing music, and what I do is highly specific).
One topic that was only mentioned early in the thread is the suggestion of sending a PM. I have always briefly answered a PM but in it, I strongly encourage the poster to make a public post where I will comment more thoroughly, and others can comment as well. I think everyone should have the opportunity to see any question or comment and whatever discussion follows so we all can learn. Now, I'm not sure how well that applies specifically to the User Showcase area, but I would think that practice could be helpful.
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Like Matt, I was curious as to why there are 71,110 views of this thread.
After reading all the posts, I still am curious as to why there are 71,110 views.
There is a ton of excellent music created on the user showcase. Why would I want to control how other people react to that content with their comments/bumps/self-promotion/likes/dislikes?
My computer has an off switch and a mouse, allowing me to disconnect from anything I don't find of interest.
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“Well…” Saint Peter, hesitated, “God’s got this girlfriend who thinks she can sing…”
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ChatGPT’s thoughts…
"Bumping" a thread on a forum means posting a new message on an old thread to push it back to the top of the forum's page, so that it becomes more visible to other users. Some people may do this to increase the exposure of their content, such as a song on a music software forum.
While this may seem like a harmless strategy, it can be seen as spamming and may violate the forum's rules. It can also be annoying to other users who may see the same content repeatedly and may discourage them from engaging with the poster or their content.
A better approach might be to actively engage with the community by participating in discussions, providing valuable feedback to other users, and sharing your content in a respectful manner. This can help build a positive reputation and attract more organic attention to your music.
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ChatGPT’s thoughts…
... attract more organic attention to your music. Who talks like that? 
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ChatGPT’s thoughts…
... attract more organic attention to your music. Who talks like that? Non-organic chat-bots, obviously 
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ChatGPT’s thoughts…
... attract more organic attention to your music. Who talks like that? Non-organic chat-bots, obviously Or anyone working in Search Engine Optimization.
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ChatGPT’s thoughts…
... attract more organic attention to your music. Who talks like that? Tell me your kidding, because it's pretty much everyone under the age of 40 who is an "influencer" It's one of the most used buzz words for a few years now.
Chad (Hope that makes it easier)
TEMPO TANTRUM: What a lead singer has when they can't stay in time.
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pretty much everyone under the age of 40 who is an "influencer" Influencer has become a word for people who don't have a job outside of playing with youtube all day. I am in my 70s and I have been an influencer for years. I used to "influence" people to close the bar with me and then go race our motorcycles. I "influenced" that almost nightly in the 80s! And the number of girls I "influenced" to come home with me... But yeah, "influencer" is a really stupid word. They can only influence weak minded people who allow themselves to be influenced. Nobody has "influenced" me in almost 72 years and I am not likely to start being "influenced" now. Musically, The Beatles influenced a lot of people in my age group on these forums, but that's about it for influencing. /bump
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I can never understand why people have that much of energy to spam a software forum in order to bump their music.
Yes, if you keep spamming throughout the year, you will win a $600 worth software license from the contribution award. But is it really worth it for your time?
With that much of time spent, you can invest in mastering your software skills, producing more quality songs, creating intriguing MVs, uploading to YouTube, TikTok, and OnlyFans, making ad revenue and gaining fame.
Thanking people everyday won't make you success.
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heres my 2c fwiw….
1.. lets be thankful for this great community here.
2.. lets be thankful for all these great tools that let us create songs that we share..and the abundance of tools that previous generations of musos never had.
3.. lets treat each other following the old motto my grannie drummed into me when i was a kid…'do unto others…' etc etc.
like lots of people wife n' i have had our share of ups n' downs. but we soldier on and to quote Dr G 'have fun'.
i just wish all here wonderful times n' fantastic enjoyment creating their songs.
happiness to all.
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I can never understand why people have that much of energy to spam a software forum in order to bump their music.
I don't think you are talking about our User Showcase forum, but just in case you are, I will say that this is not a problem we have here in our community. People are respectful and genuinely interested in commenting and hearing feedback from others. It is a real pleasure to browse that forum and listen to the songs being creating there, and it's interesting to read the stories behind them and the comments at the same time. There is a feature on that forum to sort the posts either by most recent comment, or by most recent song posted. Since each thread is a separate song, this allows you to easily sort the songs chronologically if you want to.
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Well said, Andrew.
Thank you for that much needed clarification.
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I see absolutely nothing “wrong” with keeping your post on the front page long enough for regular members to see it before it drops off. And casual visitors likely only peruse the first page. And if one has been bounced a zillion times it’s still only one line on a screen full of many  Not much effort required to ignore it. And regarding a “one thank you fits all”...often thoughtful listeners leave remarks that can be better addressed individually. The problem IMO resides with folks who drop multiple songs within a week or even a day and then never respond to anything but their own posts. It’s hard to imagine that a post that is bounced multiple times could be more objectionable than folks who repeatedly post and respond ONLY to their own - having no interest in actually participating in what I perceive as a cool community. And as far as more rules go I’d rather see posters follow the existing stated forum protocols, e.g., include RTs, RDs used, effects, etc. I agree with Bud & Janice, Personally I reply to most comments made on my songs. Doing so is polite, it lets a person know that they've offered a good suggestion of a though worthy point was raised. There're a couple of folk, of late, that post a couple in a week and offer no comments on the work of others. There are folk who are recently very active but posting a couple of songs a week from their past & not so much from their present. There are folk, Like David Snyder, who are looking at ways of posting new songs relatively frequently but without knocking others from the front page before they've had a chance to get a few responses. Strategies for bumping can be painfully obvious and they're often tied in with a tendency to not comment on the songs of others so those folk stick out soon enough. The forum also goes through ebbs & flows, Kenny Rogers style Grammy thematic waves and sudden periods of true excitement for the things being written & posted. I have my periods of whining about people dropping a song for clicks and disappearing but they're often neither frequent fliers nor worth listening to. It takes all kinds on a forum like the User Showcase and the best policing method is for others to be aware of their own actions and mindful of others.
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In case anyone doesn’t know, the number of lines on the “front page” is a user-configurable preference:
> Total topics to to show per page: (default is 60, max is 99)
The default seems reasonable to me but I always crank such things to the max. I suppose that value of 60 could be revisited if there is real concern about posts crossing the page line too soon.
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I can never understand why people have that much of energy to spam a software forum in order to bump their music.
I don't think you are talking about our User Showcase forum, but just in case you are, I will say that this is not a problem we have here in our community. People are respectful and genuinely interested in commenting and hearing feedback from others. It is a real pleasure to browse that forum and listen to the songs being creating there, and it's interesting to read the stories behind them and the comments at the same time. There is a feature on that forum to sort the posts either by most recent comment, or by most recent song posted. Since each thread is a separate song, this allows you to easily sort the songs chronologically if you want to. Thank you Andrew. Yes, providing the Showcase forum for your community has provided many thousands of folks over the years the opportunity to hear BiaB products "in action," collaborate with others and learn a lot. And, I might add, that if a member works for hours/days on a production there is NO problem in our book with them wanting to keep it active for a while. The alternative is to have it buried over the first night ... you know sorta like social media. Forums are different by nature and we assuredly appreciate that. And regarding spam you admins and mods take care of that promptly ... a role that is often little appreciated so thanks again. J&B
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There are a great many talented people on the User Showcase, and many crave the attention that comes from having their music near the top of page one... For a few months at the beginning of last year, I was one of those seeking that attention, but I found the process exhausting...
Just remember the good Dr. G's words, "Have Fun"
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There are a great many talented people on the User Showcase, and many crave the attention that comes from having their music near the top of page one... For a few months at the beginning of last year, I was one of those seeking that attention, but I found the process exhausting...
Just remember the good Dr. G's words, "Have Fun" Hey just wanted to mention that we are not amongst the “cravers.” The top of the forum is simply where they go when you respond to a review and keeping them on the front page for a while results in many more folks discovering and listening to your music ... including folks that do not flip through pages of posts for whatever reason. A popular song on the forum might get a hundred plays on Soundcloud in a month. FWIW we get thousands of plays on Spotify and that is gratifying but not to the extent of receiving User Showcase reviews from a community that we consider friends. All meaning we enjoy and appreciate the Showcase forum community created by PG Music and have yet to find it exhausting ... although some folks who drop a song every few days might! And from reading the stats Dr. Gannon cited in this years award post it would appear that the forum has served both members and PG Music well. Bud PS We enjoyed your posts and wish you’d not found it exhausting. Us? We spend relatively little time producing music (About one song per month) but we do find our daily interest in hiking and mountain biking to be exhausting!
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