Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread
Print Thread
Go To
RealBand
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 8,491
Veteran
OP Offline
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 8,491

Hey,

PG asked me to to post my RB questions here so everyone can benefit.

smile

So, I have one.

On another thread, Muso says this about Real Track Midi Drum generation:

"as an aside how many people know in rb midi drum traks can be genned gonzo fast eg using *.dp feature.
so as i have 48 traks i just stay in midi cos i can work fast. the objective being to see how well the song hangs together. ie step 1 is genning midi guide traks."

I don't know what this means but I would like to know.

AND, I would be VERY interested to know if I can go into Real Band 2023 and ONLY generate the Midi Real Chart from a list of drums, not not also generate the .wav as well.

The reason is sometimes I only want the midi loaded as a reference and do not need the .wav per se each time.

Well, if there is any info on what Muso was saying, what it means, and where you find the instructions that would be greatly appreciated.

smile

RealBand
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 1,978
J
PG Music Developer
Offline
PG Music Developer
J
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 1,978
Currently I don't think there is a way to just generate realcharts without the WAVs although the tracks with the WAVs can be deleted.

I think he was referring to Edit - MIDI - Fill Track With Drum Pattern, which uses DP files in the Realband\MidiDrums folder.

There's also a Drum Grid Editor in Edit - MIDI - Drums/Patch Map - Drum Grid Editor.


Jeff Yankauer
RealBand
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 8,491
Veteran
OP Offline
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 8,491
Ah yes, ok. Thanks Jeff.

It is still massively cool to be able to get the drum chart, and I am thankful.

When I thought for a second I was going to be able to get instant midi for all the real drums and bypass
.wav generate I flipped out.

smile

Oh well. Maybe next year.

Still your biggest fan.

smile

RealBand
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 1,978
J
PG Music Developer
Offline
PG Music Developer
J
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 1,978
Thanks. Just want to confirm you saw this post where I had tested the saving of VST settings:

https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=755892#Post755892


Jeff Yankauer
RealBand
Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 3,647
J
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
J
Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 3,647
(ps jeff..yep i used the oft forgotten 'fill' feature...
i used to do sooo many ruff demos in ptw useing it for speed.)

David//ALL.

how to minimise waveform times in rb….YEE HAW !!..lol.
a trickie dickie. ..to save constant waveform wav redraws.
this is what i did….one way. .
(i did a song sw8 yaw style with rt's. )
1..i laid out my chords n' genned ONCE…THEN i did a stereo audio mix n'imported the stereo mix on a spare trak in rb. ..THEN…
2..i replaced the yaw style with a MIDI SW 8 style…THEN
(note same chords obviously).
3..on different rb traks i genned all sorts of midi traks one after tother..includeing midi supertraks. all sorta midi instruments including drums…all playing along with the one stereo trak. genned loads of midi traks (no waveform waiting) and of course if i chose then i could experiment pluging vi's/sfrz/synthmaster etc on a midi trak.

thus there you go…no keep on waiting for waveform draws. PLUS smaller *.seq storage sizes.

LET ME EMPHASISE THE KEY IS AFTER GENNING THE STEREO MIX FROM ORIGINAL STYLE (filled with rt's etc ) REPLACE IT WITH A SIMILAR MIDI STYLE AS TO MATCHING SWING or EVEN etc. in this case i replaced a rt style sw8 with a all midi sw8 style.

then after doing all the above extra midi traks....... for " s's n' giggles'...i then starting experimenting
with loops.

lets look at the advantages of above method…

..no constant rt waveform redraws. cos only one guide audio stereo trak.
..i find i can work faster.
..one can experiment with different combos of midi traks/plug ins/etc etc.
..great for 'sing along' to test ones vocs n' if the key works with ones vocs...n' lyrics etc.
..remembder if the chord sheet is loaded into bb…also you can also drag midi traks into the shebang.

hth…i KNOW it seems a tad complex but once one gets the hang of it/experiments..
its an interesting method. works good here.
(REMEMBER TO DO SEQ SAVES !)

happiness.

om


my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..)
https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs
(90 songs created useing bb/rb)
(lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)
RealBand
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 8,491
Veteran
OP Offline
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 8,491
Jeff,

Not working on my end. See screenshots. It reverts back to Coyote. In 2022 it would at least save Aria. And Aria is the default.

I think I need to go read that other post of yours more carefully and try what you said, now I see I missed some things and get back you you.

Thanks Jeff.

smile


Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in)
default synth.png (590.94 KB, 6 downloads)
working 1.png (551.24 KB, 5 downloads)
save and reopen.png (501.25 KB, 4 downloads)
Last edited by David Snyder; 03/06/23 06:55 PM.
RealBand
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 3,110
M
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
M
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 3,110
You can get the RealDrumsMidiCharts by opening the MGU drum style of closest bpm to RB project, then drag the the Melody track into RB, either to MID or drag the track direct.
Zoom++

RealBand
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 8,491
Veteran
OP Offline
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 8,491

Thanks, that's a neat trick. I see you did it with a pedal steel track.

I tried it with a drum track and it did not work.

I will try again later.

Thanks again.

RealBand
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 3,110
M
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
M
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 3,110
They are all in the Melody track no matter what it's called drag it.
If you look in the Piano Roll view you will see the midi drums.

Previous Thread
Next Thread
Go To

Link Copied to Clipboard
ChatPG

Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.

ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.

PG Music News
XPro & Xtra Styles PAK Sets On Sale Now - Until May 15, 2026!

All of our XPro Styles PAKs and Xtra Styles PAKs are on sale until May 15th, 2026!

It's the perfect time to expand your Band-in-a-Box® style library with XPro and Xtra Styles PAKs. These additional styles for Band-in-a-Box® offer a wide range of genres designed to fit seamlessly into your projects. Each style is professionally arranged and mixed, helping enhance your songs while saving you time.

What are XPro Styles and Xtra Styles PAKs?

XPro Styles PAKs are styles that work with any version (Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition) of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 (or higher). XPro Styles PAKS 1-10 includes 1,000 styles!

Xtra Styles PAKs are styles that work with the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 (or higher). Xtra Styles PAKs 1-21 includes 3,700 styles (and 35 MIDI styles)!

The XPro & Xtra Styles PAKs are not included in any Band-in-a-Box® package.

The XPro Styles PAKs 1-10 are available for only $29 ea (reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Listen to demos and order now! For Mac or for Windows.

The Xtra Styles PAKs 1-21 are available for only $29 ea (reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the Xtra Styles PAK Bundle for only $199 (reg. $349)! Listen to demos and order now! For Mac or for Windows.

Note: XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.

The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 19 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version as they require the RealTracks included in the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.

Supercharge your Band-in-a-Box today with XPro Styles PAKs and Xtra Styles PAK Sets!

Band-in-a-Box 2026 for Mac Videos

With the release of Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac, we’re rolling out a collection of brand-new videos on our YouTube channel. We’ll keep this forum post updated so you can easily find all the latest videos in one convenient spot.

Whether you're exploring new features, checking out the latest RealTracks or Style PAKs, this is your go-to guide for Band-in-a-Box® 2026.

Check out this forum post for "One Stop Shopping" of our Band-in-a-Box® 2026 Mac Videos!

Band-in-a-Box 2026 for Mac is Here!

Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac is here and it is packed with major new features! There’s a new modern look, a GUI redesign to all areas of the program including toolbars, windows, workflow and more. There’s a Multi-view layout for organizing multiple windows. A standout addition is the powerful AI-Notes feature, which uses AI neural-net technology to transcribe polyphonic audio into MIDI—entire mixes or individual instruments—making it easy to study, view, and play parts from any song. And that’s just the beginning—there are over 100 new features in this exciting release.

Along with version 2026, we've released an incredible lineup of new content! There's 202 new RealTracks, brand-new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two new RealDrums Stems sets, XPro Styles PAK 10, Xtra Styles PAK 21, and much more!

Special Offers
Upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac and save up to 50% on most upgrade packages during our special offer—available until May 15, 2026. Visit our Band-in-a-Box® packages page to explore all available upgrade options.

2026 Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK Add-ons
Our Free Bonus PAK and 49-PAK are loaded with amazing add-ons! The Free Bonus PAK is included with most Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac packages, but you can unlock even more—including 20 unreleased RealTracks—by upgrading to the 2026 49-PAK for just $49.

Holiday Weekend Hours

As we hop into the Easter weekend, here are our holiday hours:

April 3 (Good Friday): 8:00 AM – 4:00 PM PDT
April 4 (Saturday): Closed
April 5 (Easter Sunday): Closed
April 6 (Easter Monday): Open regular hours

Wishing you an egg-cellent weekend!

— Team PG

Update to Build 10 of RealBand® 2026 for Windows®!

If you're already using RealBand 2026 for Windows, download build 10 to get all the latest additions and enhancements.

Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® users: Build 904 now available!

If you're already using Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®, make sure to grab the latest update! Build 904 is now available for download and includes the newest additions and enhancements from our team.

Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® users: Build 1237 is now available!

Already a Band-in-a-Box 2026 for Windows user? Stay up to date and download the build 1237 to get all the latest additions and enhancements.

Forum Statistics
Forums57
Topics86,220
Posts802,030
Members40,070
Most Online64,515
Apr 8th, 2026
Newest Members
Orchestr8, dimtass, Quamido Pirendo, Allan63, isledge
40,070 Registered Users
Top Posters(30 Days)
MarioD 127
zedd 110
DC Ron 94
rsdean 86
Noel96 76
Today's Birthdays
flashlarue, gary133, kirbonite
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5